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RogueMD Senior Member United States Joined 5018 days ago 72 posts - 82 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 9 of 14 25 October 2012 at 3:01am | IP Logged |
atama warui wrote:
I doubt podcasts alone will enable you to learn "rapidly" beyond the newbie stages. They're
useful in many ways, though and learning a language will take a long time regardless - unless you're learning, say,
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Agreed. The main advantage of these pods is the sheer volume of native recordings available … mostly free of
charge. I do not have the ability to judge the higher level courses; but I do find the usefulness of the material for
newer learners.
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| Michel1020 Tetraglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5015 days ago 365 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish, Dutch
| Message 10 of 14 25 October 2012 at 9:56am | IP Logged |
It depends there are podcasts intended for newbies.
Does someone tell you to learn with podcast alone ?
I don't know any way to learn a language more quickly than your own pace.
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6701 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 11 of 14 25 October 2012 at 11:02am | IP Logged |
I like to divide my listening into extensive and intensive listening. If it is extensive then I would only listen to something twice if I had problems understanding it the first time. The advantage with podcasts in this situation is that I can skip boring or irritating passages and those sickening musical interludes, but otherwise I could just as well be listening to web TV or radio or 'real' TV. The option of listening with a text normally isn't there with such sources, and when I listen extensively I normally don't miss it.
However I can also use sequences from podcast for my intensive listening, and then I listen several times - both if I listen for words and syllable boundaries ('listening as a bloodhound') and when I do transcriptions, but clearly the sequences are shorter and the repetitions more numerous when I transcribe, and here I actually prefer good synthethizers when I can find them (Abair.ie, Acapela-box.com - and sometimes even translate.google) because the point of depart here is a text sample so that I know what I'm supposed to be listening to. The 'bloodhound' listening mainly takes place while I still have problems understanding the spoken version of a language - later on I prefer just listening extensively.
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| Roman Diglot Groupie Spain Joined 5450 days ago 42 posts - 52 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English Studies: German, Italian, French
| Message 12 of 14 25 October 2012 at 11:54am | IP Logged |
Iversen wrote:
..."when I do transcriptions, but clearly the sequences are shorter and
the repetitions more numerous when I transcribe, and here I actually prefer good
synthethizers when I can find them (Abair.ie, Acapela-box.com - and sometimes even
translate.google) because the point of depart here is a text sample so that I know what
I'm supposed to be listening to. The 'bloodhound' listening mainly takes place while I
still have problems understanding the spoken version of a language - later on I prefer
just listening extensively." |
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Do you know what is the best TTS website for German? Are there good free TTS
sites/programs?
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6701 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 13 of 14 25 October 2012 at 12:29pm | IP Logged |
Try acapela box. There are four German voices in that system, which should be enough to get an impression of the diversity within Standard Hochdeutsch (but Dutch is represented by seven voices and French by eight!). A similar system is found at www.naturalreaders.com, but with fewer languages (also four 'Germans' here). As a compensation you can choose different speeds here. Both systems are limited to short texts. Apart from Google Translate I haven't experimented with systems that can deal with more than a few hundred letters in one block, and I guess even Google has a limit somewhere.
Btw: the major German TV-stations have extensive collections of German language podcasts about just about anything - as witnessed for instance by the collection of Bayrische Rundfunk. You can also google for "Mediathek".
Edited by Iversen on 25 October 2012 at 2:04pm
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| RogueMD Senior Member United States Joined 5018 days ago 72 posts - 82 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 14 of 14 25 October 2012 at 1:17pm | IP Logged |
Thanks Iversen … I appreciate your input. My use of Podcasts has not reached any sophistication ("yet") and
remains a "work in progress" . As you mentioned, I like the variety of voices/pronunciation that are readily
available.
As an aside, I am a fan of your "wordlist" methodology and use a modified version as a base component of my
learning. (Thanks!)
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