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| Duke100782 Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Philippines https://talktagalog.Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4489 days ago 172 posts - 240 votes  Speaks: English*, Tagalog* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin | Message 1 of 3 26 January 2014 at 6:02am | IP Logged |
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How are 被，让 and 叫 used in passive 被 sentences? I can't distinguish the usage and connotations of
each of them. In my textbook, I have these examples: 刚才我被一辆三轮车到了。 钱包叫小偷偷走了。 我的录音机就是让他修好了。 I hope someone can help me out with the nuances between these three words. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| vermillon Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4679 days ago 602 posts - 1042 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, German | Message 2 of 3 28 January 2014 at 8:34am | IP Logged |
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They're "more or less" interchangeable. Generally speaking, I would say that you should use 被 (the most common) and be able to recognize the two others.
Also worth nothing, 被 is the only one that can express passive voice without mention of the agent (我的钱包被偷了), the other two must specify it. And since 叫 and 让 are also used in the active voice to mean "to make sb do sth", it can be a bit confusing at times. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| michaelyus Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4566 days ago 53 posts - 87 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: Italian, French, Cantonese, Korean, Catalan, Vietnamese, Lingala, Spanish Studies: Hokkien | Message 3 of 3 28 January 2014 at 1:04pm | IP Logged |
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被 is often used when the connotation is "adversative" i.e. the person has "suffered"
the action. It is rarely used in a positive sense (e.g. 被称赞 sounds really weird to me). It sounds pretty formal in a neutral sense, although it is fairly common (e.g. 被 委任成). The other passive markers are colloquial. They may also be "adversative" or "helpless" in connotation. Again, use in positive sense would be rather weird (I think with a colloquial nature, it might express the speaker's mild disapproval, although that's my own impression). In general, if you can avoid a syntactic, "marked" passive in Chinese, you should. Good use of topic-comment structures help greatly. Has that first sentence been copied correctly? 第一个句子写得对吗？(no passive marker, unlike English) [Serious question] Edited by michaelyus on 28 January 2014 at 1:10pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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