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Norvasc
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19 September 2014 at 10:20pm | IP Logged 
Kutchi is a sub Indian dialect to Gujarati spoken in the Kutch state of India. I was
able to speak it when I was a child. Recently I have wanted to increase my fluency and
my confidence with new words. I have been away from this language for over thirty
years.

I am not finding too much on the language on the web. I was thinking of hiring the
services of a translator to translate some paragraphs similar to the Assimil format.

Can someone suggest to me a source of short stories or phrases that would work for
this experiment. Please note that I would be looking for very simple sentences since I
believe that kutchi does not have too many words

After making the translations I would then listen to the dialogue and hopefully the
phrases would stick in my memory.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in anticipation.


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19 September 2014 at 11:50pm | IP Logged 
I think you should create your own stories. For example, why would you learn something like "I study Otolaryngology at university" if you work as a lawyer?

Creating your own stories is a good way of knowing what words you need more often.
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Cabaire
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19 September 2014 at 11:57pm | IP Logged 
Which script are you going to use? I would be interested, whether the the new script, invented by Dr.Rajul Shah gained widespread acceptance (you can glimpse at it in this video).
I like the idea rooted in the national romanticism of the 19. century, that a language needs a unique, tailored script in order to bloom and to be something august and special.
But I guess the Gujarati alphabet is still prevalent or you may prefer a Latinatization because you are exclusivley interested in orality.

Good luck with the buried language skills of your childhood!

PS. This is off-topic, but I question your opinion, that any language is capable of only simple sentences, because it has to few words (the adepts of Toki Pona may keep quiet just this moment). I am sure there are more words in that language than you will ever learn in many years to come. (End of digression)
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20 September 2014 at 3:34am | IP Logged 
To create your own Assimil style course:
Start with a bilingual text you love.
Get the audio for it.
Split the audio up in 1-2 minute pieces with a tool like Audacity (free).
Go through the book and audio over and over until you understand it very well and can read it in your target language.
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20 September 2014 at 9:13am | IP Logged 
Cabaire wrote:
I question your opinion, that any language is capable of only simple sentences, because it has
to few words (the adepts of Toki Pona may keep quiet just this moment). I am sure there are more words in that
language than you will ever learn in many years to come.


If the language actually lacks words for scientific, technological things, etc. then speakers will just borrow the
words from a prestige language (Gujarati or English). At that point it's a pedantic discussion whether those words
are part of Kutchi or the speakers are code switching into the other languages.

luke wrote:

To create your own Assimil style course:
Start with a bilingual text you love.
Get the audio for it.
Split the audio up in 1-2 minute pieces with a tool like Audacity (free).
Go through the book and audio over and over until you understand it very well and can read it in your target
language.


I vote for this as well. If you have a professional translator, you can have him start with an English text, that way
you'll have more control over the text. If you enlist a bilingual who isn't an experienced translator, have him start
with a Kutchi text, so that if the translation comes out a little weird, it won't affect the most crucial material.


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stephane
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12 December 2014 at 6:54pm | IP Logged 
Norvasc wrote:

I am not finding too much on the language on the web. I was thinking of hiring the
services of a translator to translate some paragraphs similar to the Assimil format.

Can someone suggest to me a source of short stories or phrases that would work for
this experiment.


Why not simply use (if you don't intend to distribute your work) the English text of any Assimil (or any other learning method or phrasebook), preferably for a language of the same area?


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