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Radioclare
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 Message 9 of 26
24 October 2014 at 4:13pm | IP Logged 
Thank you, tarvos.

The only other Slavic ones I've thought of this afternoon are prava (right, in the sense 'correct') and this one which I warn you is rude but I'm certain it must come from a Slavic language because it's almost the same word in Croatian.

Learning the difference between the aforementioned word and the Esperanto word for pizza (pico) is incidentally the best way for beginners in Esperanto to grasp the difference between 'c' and 'ĉ'. You only make the mistake of saying 'Mi volas manĝi piĉon' once :D
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Cavesa
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 Message 10 of 26
24 October 2014 at 8:14pm | IP Logged 
I gave Esperanto a try (like 20 hours? Perhaps less) and I was surprised by the fast progress. I had covered grammar for as much use as you normally study a year (if you are not slow). But I don't think the propedeutic miracle would still apply as it was my fourth or so language. I got bored, found out it was mostly a romance mix, not the promis romance-germanic-slavic, found out it interfered with my French and Spanish much more than the two of them interfered with each other. So I left. I totally agree with Serpent about Latin being a much better propedeutic language despite (or perhaps thanks to) being really hard (I had three years of Latin total, one of them was medical latin and left with intermediate knowledge).
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Serpent
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 Message 11 of 26
24 October 2014 at 9:00pm | IP Logged 
LOL I didn't know the word. wiktionary has some Slavic examples :D Russian is one of the few not represented.
And the opposite looks hilarious to me with this spelling.
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tristano
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 Message 12 of 26
24 October 2014 at 10:17pm | IP Logged 
Cavesa wrote:
I gave Esperanto a try (like 20 hours? Perhaps less) and I was surprised by the fast progress. I had
covered grammar for as much use as you normally study a year (if you are not slow). But I don't think the
propedeutic miracle would still apply as it was my fourth or so language. I got bored, found out it was mostly a
romance mix, not the promis romance-germanic-slavic, found out it interfered with my French and Spanish much
more than the two of them interfered with each other. So I left. I totally agree with Serpent about Latin being a much
better propedeutic language despite (or perhaps thanks to) being really hard (I had three years of Latin total, one of
them was medical latin and left with intermediate knowledge).


And how do you see Esperanto as a propedeutic language to Latin? :D
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Serpent
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 Message 13 of 26
24 October 2014 at 10:22pm | IP Logged 
Pointless. Your native Italian (and French, Spanish) will be much more important for Latin. I also think you should find it easier than I or Cavesa did.
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tarvos
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 Message 14 of 26
24 October 2014 at 10:28pm | IP Logged 
My Latin teacher was an Italian woman and it was much easier for her to translate back
through Italian. Italian and Latin are the closest to each other, although Romanian has
conserved some very odd words from Latin in cases where all the other Romance languages
diverged.

Edited by tarvos on 24 October 2014 at 10:29pm

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Radioclare
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 Message 15 of 26
24 October 2014 at 10:32pm | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
Pointless.


+1

The only thing you can be sure you will achieve by learning Esperanto is speaking
Esperanto :)
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 Message 16 of 26
24 October 2014 at 10:49pm | IP Logged 
Learn Esperanto if you are interested in Esperanto itself.

I can't imagine it being more efficient to learn Esperanto first if your goal is learning another language.


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