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day1 Groupie Latvia Joined 3892 days ago 93 posts - 158 votes Speaks: English
| Message 1 of 15 19 November 2014 at 3:48pm | IP Logged |
Curious about what others prefer. I have been looking through reviews on Amazon, but it's hard to judge how knowledgeable the reviewer is, to what he/she is comparing the "this is a great course!" book.
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| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5130 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 2 of 15 19 November 2014 at 4:10pm | IP Logged |
This whole series is monolingual, but I learned more from På vei/Stein på stein/Her på Berget than any other course(s).
But as a native English speaker, it only took one TY type course to be able to get to a level to use monolingual material.
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Edited by hrhenry on 19 November 2014 at 4:11pm
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5166 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian
| Message 3 of 15 19 November 2014 at 8:55pm | IP Logged |
My favorite one to start is Hugo's Norwegian in Three Months. I like it better than Assimil or Colloquial.
'Learn Norwegian' is far more complete, but I find the learning curve too steep. It's good for consolidating grammar, and that's why I plan to do it now, when I'm way into the B1 level.
I really enjoyed the monolingual ones, but I found it appropriate to use them at the intermediate stage, after Linguaphone and Assimil, for example.
Speaking of Assimil, I think the Norwegian one has too many obscure words and lacks the repetition that helps the most important ones stick. I could see it from the French translations: I was already at a good French level when I used the book, but there were several words that I didn't know in French, either. That didn't happen that often in other Assimils.
So, i'd go for Hugo, then Colloquial/TY if you find necessary, then Assimil, Linguaphone and the monolinguals, with some grammar here and there, finishing with Learn Norwegian.
(Sorry if you were expecting others to answer instead of myself ;))
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| day1 Groupie Latvia Joined 3892 days ago 93 posts - 158 votes Speaks: English
| Message 4 of 15 20 November 2014 at 12:19pm | IP Logged |
Expugnator, your opinion is always welcomed and appreciated :)
Good to hear good reviews about the På vei/Stein på stein/Her på Berget series. I myself happen not to be a fan of monolingual books, to put it mildly. I was more keen to see what else people are trying - what about Norsk på 1-2-3 (used in University of Oslo), Sett i Gang (used in Harward), Norsk I Sammenheng (famous McGraw-Hill publisher), Levende Norsk (same author wrote Aktivt Dansk, the most widely used Danish textbook series)? What about Langenscheidt Norwegisch, the one that claims to bring you to B1 (also famous publisher, each and every dialog translated, suitable for self study)?
Hugo's Norwegian in 3 months - noted. Will check it out more thoroughly.
Would one of the TY audio courses, such as TY Speak Norwegian with Confidence be enough to dive into monolingual stuff?
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5166 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian
| Message 5 of 15 20 November 2014 at 1:10pm | IP Logged |
I don't think a single TY would be enough to delve into native materials. Actually Linguaphone helped a lot me make the transition to the monolingual textbooks and then to native materials. The På vei/Stein på stein/Her på Bergen series is very extensive, too, with long texts and important cultural and social information. I also tried En-to-tre, Noy i Norge, Bo i Norge. Since there were so many classroom-based textbooks, I'd do them one right after the other. I didn't have access to Sett i Gang or Norsk I Sammenheng, and using a German-based textbook wouldn't make much sense since my Norwegian was much better than my German ;) At my former Norwegian log I wrote the sequence of materials I used:
Old TAC log
IIRC, only Linguaphone and the grammars are missing (Norwegian - an Essential Grammar and Norwegian Verbs and Essentials of Grammar).
Norwegian has the advantage of having several audiobooks (not the corresponding ebooks though) and films available.
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| Camundonguinho Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4749 days ago 273 posts - 500 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish Studies: Swedish
| Message 6 of 15 20 November 2014 at 2:19pm | IP Logged |
If you're interested in Vestlandet's fjords, dialects and in Nynorsk like I am,
then you my find my approach useful:
NorskPluss - Tekstbok (Nynorsk) (I've found these textbook series the most useful)
Gramática básica de noruego integral by Mariano González (The best learner's grammar of Norwegian not in Norwegian)
Barnebøker app by Samlaget (great choice for children level audiobooks, with subtitles)
NN wikipedia (a random article: https://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin )
http://www.nrk.no/ (Children channel is the most useful for beginners)
Lukke til!
Edited by Camundonguinho on 20 November 2014 at 2:30pm
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| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5130 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 7 of 15 20 November 2014 at 4:43pm | IP Logged |
Expugnator wrote:
I don't think a single TY would be enough to delve into native materials. |
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We should probably differentiate between monolingual and native. They're really not the same thing when it comes to courses.
As far as a single English-based course being sufficient prior to moving on to monolingual courses go, it was sufficient for me. but it wasn't an audio-only course so I got some grammar explanations, and maybe more importantly, my native language is English.
R.
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| day1 Groupie Latvia Joined 3892 days ago 93 posts - 158 votes Speaks: English
| Message 8 of 15 20 November 2014 at 6:30pm | IP Logged |
I have this paranoia, I'm scared to learn to pronounce things wrong when doing it through self study (have been more of a classroom kind of learner so far). This is the main reason for looking at audio courses first. Grammar dos not concern me much. I have been studying/flirting with both German and Swedish, so I assume this would help me a lot in terms of Norwegian grammar concepts.
What I am really looking for is something engaging, to keep the interest up (motivation is a big issue). Audiobook apps and children TV might do the trick as a wonderful supplement and vocab enhancer.
So far a lot of good suggestions, thanks guys :) Also, experience of others will help keep expectations more realistic.
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