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leosmith
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 Message 26 of 55
10 July 2008 at 8:54am | IP Logged 
Volte wrote:
leosmith wrote:
anteportas wrote:
you must be inteLLLLigent to do it

Huh? I thought it worked for you.


C'mon, leosmith, that's not befitting of you.

Furthermore, I'd like to ask you to refrain from low jabs at atamagaii in my logs. S/he's my friend, and if you must do them, I'd prefer you do them elsewhere.

And lastly: I think s/he is intelligent, but eh.

He called me stupid, I called him stupid. I apologize.
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DaraghM
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 Message 27 of 55
10 July 2008 at 9:38am | IP Logged 
I've done some L-R with the Little Prince in both French and Spanish. Is it advised to repeat previously covered material, or should you move on, and always cover new stuff ? Sorry, if I missed this answer elsewhere.
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Volte
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 Message 28 of 55
10 July 2008 at 10:05am | IP Logged 
DaraghM wrote:
I've done some L-R with the Little Prince in both French and Spanish. Is it advised to repeat previously covered material, or should you move on, and always cover new stuff ? Sorry, if I missed this answer elsewhere.


Rule of thumb: repeat 2-3 times.
Another rule of thumb: once you're comfortable with about 70% of it, move on.

I'm typing these both from memory; corrections welcome.

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jeff_lindqvist
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 Message 29 of 55
10 July 2008 at 4:04pm | IP Logged 
Yes, repeating 2-3 times is how I (too) interpreted some of the posts in the original thread. Whether it's best to use an English translation or to go straight to an interlinear text is probably optional, but I don't think it does any harm in using the translation.

To DaraghM: if your chosen content is rich enough you could probably benefit from repeating just that over and over (similar to what ProfArguelles does with Assimil, albeit with another approach), instead of moving on. However, everyone is different, and to my knowledge there isn't any set "standard" what you should be able to to after 10/20/40 hours of L-R. Assume that we all "like books", and use exactly the same content (as experiment), I am still pretty sure that the result would vary a lot.

Edited by jeff_lindqvist on 11 July 2008 at 3:24pm

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J-Learner
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 Message 30 of 55
11 July 2008 at 1:29am | IP Logged 
I am finding it slightly frustrating that I want to try this method but am unable to get any audiobooks and books in Hebrew to do so. I had the idea of doing it many years ago when I came across an audiobook of one of Dan Browns earlier books in German. (Something to do with computers)

I thought to myself, if I have the audio and am going to listen to it, why not follow it along while doing so.

Is this similar to this L+R method?

Unfortunately I moved house and could not continue with the method and only did it for the first chapter.
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Alkeides
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 Message 31 of 55
12 July 2008 at 3:08am | IP Logged 
Volte wrote:
DaraghM wrote:
I've done some L-R with the Little Prince in both French and Spanish. Is it advised to repeat previously covered material, or should you move on, and always cover new stuff ? Sorry, if I missed this answer elsewhere.


Rule of thumb: repeat 2-3 times.
Another rule of thumb: once you're comfortable with about 70% of it, move on.

I'm typing these both from memory; corrections welcome.

How long are the fragments that you repeat? Repeating long sentences or even paragraphs is quite a hassle using WinAmp; I find it difficult to rewind back to the exact start of the sentence and going through it again.
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Volte
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 Message 32 of 55
12 July 2008 at 3:35am | IP Logged 
amphises wrote:
Volte wrote:
DaraghM wrote:
I've done some L-R with the Little Prince in both French and Spanish. Is it advised to repeat previously covered material, or should you move on, and always cover new stuff ? Sorry, if I missed this answer elsewhere.


Rule of thumb: repeat 2-3 times.
Another rule of thumb: once you're comfortable with about 70% of it, move on.

I'm typing these both from memory; corrections welcome.

How long are the fragments that you repeat? Repeating long sentences or even paragraphs is quite a hassle using WinAmp; I find it difficult to rewind back to the exact start of the sentence and going through it again.


The "fragments" are the complete book, generally 2-18+ hours of audio.
I agree that rewinding specific sentences is a hassle.

When I want to specifically repeat a sentence, I tend to extract it with audacity and loop it. I haven't used that with L-R, but I have with Assimil.



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