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| TheElvenLord Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6023 days ago 915 posts - 927 votes  1 sounds Speaks: Cornish, English* Studies: Spanish, French, German Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 1 of 22 14 July 2008 at 10:50am | IP Logged |
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I decided about a week ago, I was going to learn Welsh.
I have 2 reasons for this, which are the basis of this test: Can I learn a language in a summer Can I learn a language for free I have a budget of £0, and access to the Internet and library. I will be working from completly free resources, available on the web or from a library (That are legal). I want to be able to participate in a conversation in Welsh by the end of summer. I am studying lightly at the moment, but when the summer holidays start, I will be doing it intensively. Plan I am doing E-wlpan (free welsh intensive course on the internet), and putting all new vocabulary into Anki I am doing "Novel studies" - I have a book i found on the internet "Cartrefi Cymru" and I am going to read a little each night, translating with a free downloadable dictionary (Freelang) TEL 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| TheElvenLord Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6023 days ago 915 posts - 927 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Cornish, English* Studies: Spanish, French, German Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 2 of 22 14 July 2008 at 12:08pm | IP Logged |
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Just found BBC Catchphrase for Welsh
Plan (update) At home, At school = E-wlpan and Vocab Travelling (1/2 h per day) = BBC Catchphrase TEL 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| mawkernewek Newbie United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5924 days ago 11 posts - 14 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Cornish, French, Russian, Welsh | Message 3 of 22 14 July 2008 at 12:17pm | IP Logged |
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The one reason I am a bit sceptical of it is that the learner talks more than the instructors so it doesn't necessarily provide the best model. But there is a lot of audio (144 15 minute episodes) plus written notes. I have just been using the audio, although I find I don't always remember the vocabulary this way and plan to increase my vocabulary later by reading in the language. 75% of the vocabulary is the same as Cornish apparently. According to Wikipedia. I'm not sure how this is measured.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/catchphrase/catchphrase1/lessons1 .shtml By the way there are programs which can make it easier for you to download 144 files. DownThemAll for Firefox is one. Edited by mawkernewek on 14 July 2008 at 12:18pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| TheElvenLord Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6023 days ago 915 posts - 927 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Cornish, English* Studies: Spanish, French, German Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 4 of 22 15 July 2008 at 2:39am | IP Logged |
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Thanks Mawkernewek
I intend to enter all the vocabulary into Anki for study, rather than rely solely on the recordings. 75% is about right. On the first lesson in "E-wlpan" you spot at least 5 cognates (with Cornish) almost immediatly! TEL 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| TheElvenLord Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6023 days ago 915 posts - 927 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Cornish, English* Studies: Spanish, French, German Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 5 of 22 15 July 2008 at 2:13pm | IP Logged |
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I have done Lesson 1 and 2 of Catchphrase.
It is very good, many cognates make it easier, it goes very fast. It has some resemblance to the MT method, which is quite strange!! Diolch TEL 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| mawkernewek Newbie United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5924 days ago 11 posts - 14 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Cornish, French, Russian, Welsh | Message 6 of 22 15 July 2008 at 3:45pm | IP Logged |
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Just managed to load my Cornish vocab list into Anki, consisting of all of Skeul an Yeth 1 and some of book 2.
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| TheElvenLord Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6023 days ago 915 posts - 927 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Cornish, English* Studies: Spanish, French, German Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 7 of 22 16 July 2008 at 2:49am | IP Logged |
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Mawkernewek
That is awesome, how long did that take? So, every word is in their? It might be a good idea to load all the "Dehwelans" and "Daswelans kemyskys" aswell. A yll'ta ow y dhannvonn dre PM orth C24 po omma. Meur ras dhis TEL 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| mawkernewek Newbie United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5924 days ago 11 posts - 14 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Cornish, French, Russian, Welsh | Message 8 of 22 16 July 2008 at 3:14am | IP Logged |
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I already had it as a plain text file, to get it into the right format for Anki just involved importing it into a spreadsheet and tidying it up. If you send me your email address by PM I'll send you the files.
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