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delta910
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 Message 9 of 23
24 April 2009 at 11:11pm | IP Logged 
digitlhand wrote:
I have the Korean book, and it is quiet good. The audio CD's for home learning are well recorded; however, I don't listen to the CD's for the road as they have English in them.

I would give the series 9 stars out 10 for a solid introduction into a language. Well worth the price.



The book uses the Korean characters right. Because I have seen some course books for Arabic or Persian dont use the script.
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digitlhand
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 Message 10 of 23
25 April 2009 at 5:52am | IP Logged 
delta910 wrote:
digitlhand wrote:
I have the Korean book, and it is quiet good. The audio CD's for home
learning are well recorded; however, I don't listen to the CD's for the road as they have English in them.

I would give the series 9 stars out 10 for a solid introduction into a language. Well worth the price.



The book uses the Korean characters right. Because I have seen some course books for Arabic or Persian dont
use the script.


Yes, this particular book does use the Korean characters but no Hanja (you can search the forums and find
heated
debates on both sides as to the importance of learning Hanja)

You'll tend to find courses that don't offer Arabic script tend to focus on a particular dialect rather than
Modern Standard Arabic.(MSA) I would highly recommend the Living Language Ultimate Arabic series, it does an
excellent job of introducing the Arabic script as well as use it throughout the MSA section of the course. As I
understand it, they will have a new version later this year.

As a side note, I found the Al-Kitaab collection very beneficial, If you have more questions as to which learning
materials I would recommend for Arabic, pm me.

- Ryan

Edited by digitlhand on 25 April 2009 at 5:56am

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scootermclean
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 Message 11 of 23
25 April 2009 at 5:55am | IP Logged 
delta910 wrote:
digitlhand wrote:
I have the Korean book, and it is quiet good. The audio CD's for home learning are well recorded; however, I don't listen to the CD's for the road as they have English in them.

I would give the series 9 stars out 10 for a solid introduction into a language. Well worth the price.



The book uses the Korean characters right. Because I have seen some course books for Arabic or Persian dont use the script.


The Arabic "Ultimate Arabic Beginner-Intermediate" book does have the Arabic script for the chapters on MSA. The book also focuses on 4 dialects, wherein none of this is written in the arabic script. Their reasoning is that dialects are rarely written.
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digitlhand
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 Message 12 of 23
25 April 2009 at 6:01am | IP Logged 
scootermclean wrote:
delta910 wrote:
digitlhand wrote:
I have the Korean book, and it is quiet good.
The audio CD's for home learning are well recorded; however, I don't listen to the CD's for the road as they
have English in them.

I would give the series 9 stars out 10 for a solid introduction into a language. Well worth the price.



The book uses the Korean characters right. Because I have seen some course books for Arabic or Persian dont
use the script.


The Arabic "Ultimate Arabic Beginner-Intermediate" book does have the Arabic script for the chapters on MSA.
The book also focuses on 4 dialects, wherein none of this is written in the arabic script. Their reasoning is that
dialects are rarely written.


They have a valid point, as one would be hard pressed to find any dialectical literature written in Arabic script. I
have tried vigorously searching for some, with no success.

Edited by digitlhand on 25 April 2009 at 6:02am

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scootermclean
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 Message 13 of 23
25 April 2009 at 6:32am | IP Logged 
digitlhand, Have you made any progress with your Living Language Korean set? I have the Korean workbook and CD's also, but have yet to use them. I am contemplating starting up with Korean.
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digitlhand
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 Message 14 of 23
25 April 2009 at 7:06am | IP Logged 
scootermclean, I have not listened to the CD's more than once. I found the bundle at a Borders bookstore while
on break at work... I thought it looked interesting (beautiful artwork) and bought it. I am very excited to start using
it; however, under Professor Arguelle's advice, I am delaying other language acquisition until I have learned German
and French.

I am intrigued by the latest research by Dr. Paul Sulzberger from Victoria University of Wellington. His research
shows that individuals tend to learn a language much better when they have been exposed to it well before
understanding meaning.

Thus, I have started listening to all my other language learning materials throughout the day. This post has
reminded me of the Korean audio waiting to be listened to. I will make sure to have it in my iPod rotation. Thank
you for the reminder scootermclean

Edited by digitlhand on 25 April 2009 at 7:07am

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 Message 15 of 23
25 April 2009 at 11:29am | IP Logged 
digitlhand wrote:
I am intrigued by the latest research by Dr. Paul Sulzberger from Victoria University of Wellington. His research
shows that individuals tend to learn a language much better when they have been exposed to it well before
understanding meaning.

His research shows nothing of the sort. As was discussed extensively previously, what Sulzberger proved is that learners find it easier to learn foreign words that are built up of sounds from their own native language. The less a word is like the native language, the harder it is for the learner to remember.

That is the sum total of his research, as described by himself.

Sulzberger has taken a massive leap by suddenly claiming that mindless listening is the answer. He has no proof, whereas there is a lot of people who have had massive exposure to a language, yet still sound totally foreign, which suggests the opposite.

I'm more interested in HVPT, which is something I would never have gone for before playing Slime Forest (a very different thing, but with a similar "do it lots of times, really fast, until you don't need to think about it" feel) and the TravelPod's World Traveler IQ Challenge (again very different, but the same idea of intensity, speed and not thinking about it).
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Jar-ptitsa
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 Message 16 of 23
25 April 2009 at 11:47am | IP Logged 
Cainntear wrote:
TravelPod's World Traveler IQ Challenge


wow, it's really fun, but annoying because I hadn't sufficient for the final one:




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