delta910 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5874 days ago 267 posts - 313 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Dutch, German
| Message 9 of 23 24 April 2009 at 11:11pm | IP Logged |
digitlhand wrote:
I have the Korean book, and it is quiet good. The audio CD's for home learning are well recorded; however, I don't listen to the CD's for the road as they have English in them.
I would give the series 9 stars out 10 for a solid introduction into a language. Well worth the price.
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The book uses the Korean characters right. Because I have seen some course books for Arabic or Persian dont use the script.
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digitlhand Triglot Groupie United States ryanslrblog.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6220 days ago 77 posts - 108 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Swedish Studies: German, Arabic (Written), Japanese, Greek, French
| Message 10 of 23 25 April 2009 at 5:52am | IP Logged |
delta910 wrote:
digitlhand wrote:
I have the Korean book, and it is quiet good. The audio CD's for home
learning are well recorded; however, I don't listen to the CD's for the road as they have English in them.
I would give the series 9 stars out 10 for a solid introduction into a language. Well worth the price.
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The book uses the Korean characters right. Because I have seen some course books for Arabic or Persian dont
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Yes, this particular book does use the Korean characters but no Hanja (you can search the forums and find
heated
debates on both sides as to the importance of learning Hanja)
You'll tend to find courses that don't offer Arabic script tend to focus on a particular dialect rather than
Modern Standard Arabic.(MSA) I would highly recommend the Living Language Ultimate Arabic series, it does an
excellent job of introducing the Arabic script as well as use it throughout the MSA section of the course. As I
understand it, they will have a new version later this year.
As a side note, I found the Al-Kitaab collection very beneficial, If you have more questions as to which learning
materials I would recommend for Arabic, pm me.
- Ryan
Edited by digitlhand on 25 April 2009 at 5:56am
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scootermclean Diglot Groupie United States scottmclean.net Joined 6477 days ago 69 posts - 70 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), Basque
| Message 11 of 23 25 April 2009 at 5:55am | IP Logged |
delta910 wrote:
digitlhand wrote:
I have the Korean book, and it is quiet good. The audio CD's for home learning are well recorded; however, I don't listen to the CD's for the road as they have English in them.
I would give the series 9 stars out 10 for a solid introduction into a language. Well worth the price.
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The book uses the Korean characters right. Because I have seen some course books for Arabic or Persian dont use the script. |
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The Arabic "Ultimate Arabic Beginner-Intermediate" book does have the Arabic script for the chapters on MSA. The book also focuses on 4 dialects, wherein none of this is written in the arabic script. Their reasoning is that dialects are rarely written.
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digitlhand Triglot Groupie United States ryanslrblog.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6220 days ago 77 posts - 108 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Swedish Studies: German, Arabic (Written), Japanese, Greek, French
| Message 12 of 23 25 April 2009 at 6:01am | IP Logged |
scootermclean wrote:
delta910 wrote:
digitlhand wrote:
I have the Korean book, and it is quiet good.
The audio CD's for home learning are well recorded; however, I don't listen to the CD's for the road as they
have English in them.
I would give the series 9 stars out 10 for a solid introduction into a language. Well worth the price.
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The book uses the Korean characters right. Because I have seen some course books for Arabic or Persian dont
use the script. |
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The Arabic "Ultimate Arabic Beginner-Intermediate" book does have the Arabic script for the chapters on MSA.
The book also focuses on 4 dialects, wherein none of this is written in the arabic script. Their reasoning is that
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They have a valid point, as one would be hard pressed to find any dialectical literature written in Arabic script. I
have tried vigorously searching for some, with no success.
Edited by digitlhand on 25 April 2009 at 6:02am
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scootermclean Diglot Groupie United States scottmclean.net Joined 6477 days ago 69 posts - 70 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), Basque
| Message 13 of 23 25 April 2009 at 6:32am | IP Logged |
digitlhand, Have you made any progress with your Living Language Korean set? I have the Korean workbook and CD's also, but have yet to use them. I am contemplating starting up with Korean.
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digitlhand Triglot Groupie United States ryanslrblog.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6220 days ago 77 posts - 108 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Swedish Studies: German, Arabic (Written), Japanese, Greek, French
| Message 14 of 23 25 April 2009 at 7:06am | IP Logged |
scootermclean, I have not listened to the CD's more than once. I found the bundle at a Borders bookstore while
on break at work... I thought it looked interesting (beautiful artwork) and bought it. I am very excited to start using
it; however, under Professor Arguelle's advice, I am delaying other language acquisition until I have learned German
and French.
I am intrigued by the latest research by Dr. Paul Sulzberger from Victoria University of Wellington. His research
shows that individuals tend to learn a language much better when they have been exposed to it well before
understanding meaning.
Thus, I have started listening to all my other language learning materials throughout the day. This post has
reminded me of the Korean audio waiting to be listened to. I will make sure to have it in my iPod rotation. Thank
you for the reminder scootermclean
Edited by digitlhand on 25 April 2009 at 7:07am
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6010 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 15 of 23 25 April 2009 at 11:29am | IP Logged |
digitlhand wrote:
I am intrigued by the latest research by Dr. Paul Sulzberger from Victoria University of Wellington. His research
shows that individuals tend to learn a language much better when they have been exposed to it well before
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His research shows nothing of the sort. As was discussed extensively previously, what Sulzberger proved is that learners find it easier to learn foreign words that are built up of sounds from their own native language. The less a word is like the native language, the harder it is for the learner to remember.
That is the sum total of his research, as described by himself.
Sulzberger has taken a massive leap by suddenly claiming that mindless listening is the answer. He has no proof, whereas there is a lot of people who have had massive exposure to a language, yet still sound totally foreign, which suggests the opposite.
I'm more interested in HVPT, which is something I would never have gone for before playing Slime Forest (a very different thing, but with a similar "do it lots of times, really fast, until you don't need to think about it" feel) and the TravelPod's World Traveler IQ Challenge (again very different, but the same idea of intensity, speed and not thinking about it).
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Jar-ptitsa Triglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5897 days ago 980 posts - 1006 votes Speaks: French*, Dutch, German
| Message 16 of 23 25 April 2009 at 11:47am | IP Logged |
wow, it's really fun, but annoying because I hadn't sufficient for the final one:
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