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| anytram Bilingual Tetraglot Groupie France Joined 5669 days ago 85 posts - 89 votes  Speaks: German*, Polish*, French, English Studies: Japanese | Message 1 of 9 11 September 2009 at 7:30pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've searched the forums, but only stumbled on one reference without any further comment. So here's what I'm actually looking for:
A grammar book for Polish (in any of the languages I am fluent in) like "The Dictionnary of Basic Japanese Grammar" or "Der (kleine) Grammatik-Duden". So actually a collection of the most important Grammar rules. The book that has been mentioned in one place is "Polish: An Essential Grammar (Routledge Grammar) Dana Bielec Routledge Grammar Paperback", can anyone tell me more about it? (I you have any hints on material to use to intiate someone in Polish, don't hesitate.) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7156 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 2 of 9 11 September 2009 at 8:02pm | IP Logged | ||
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Bielec's reference manual for Routledge on Polish grammar is pretty good. I've referred to my copy quite a bit while studying Polish. It's really designed for someone who wants to know how to use Polish and doesn't use an affected academic writing style, like the one in a Routledge's reference manual on Ukrainian grammar.
There are a couple of online grammar manuals for Polish that are freely downloadable. One is a somewhat thin manual in .pdf format by Ronald Feldstein. It is hosted at www.seelrc.org and called "A Concise Polish Grammar" http://www.seelrc.org:8080/grammar/mainframe.jsp?nLanguageID =4 The other is a 498-paged manual in .pdf format by Oscar Swan. It is hosted at the website of the University of Pittsburgh's Polish Department and called "A Grammar of Contemporary Polish". http://polish.slavic.pitt.edu/grammar.pdf I find Bielec's book to be the most suitable for someone who's just interested in learning Polish. Swan's manual is great but goes into a lot of detail and includes LOTS of examples and lists which show inflectional patterns and/or subtleties with word order and aspect. I find Swan's manual to be an informative reference source when I want to get a detailed explanation or demonstration of some topic in Polish grammar. Feldstein's manual is OK, but I find it a bit too short for my liking and since I'm a bit of a freak for details, I usually reach for my printout of Swan's book. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| anytram Bilingual Tetraglot Groupie France Joined 5669 days ago 85 posts - 89 votes Speaks: German*, Polish*, French, English Studies: Japanese | Message 3 of 9 11 September 2009 at 8:10pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you for the information, I'll try to get my hands on real copies (through BookMooch first) as I prefer those to .pdfs.
If there's anything else you (or someone else) wants to add or suggest, please go on. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| stelingo Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5832 days ago 722 posts - 1076 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Czech, Polish, Greek, Mandarin | Message 4 of 9 11 September 2009 at 9:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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There are also 2 grammar workbooks written by Bielec, Basic Polish and Intermediate Polish. I have found them both useful.
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| anytram Bilingual Tetraglot Groupie France Joined 5669 days ago 85 posts - 89 votes Speaks: German*, Polish*, French, English Studies: Japanese | Message 5 of 9 12 September 2009 at 11:04am | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you, stelingo.
Actually, last night when going to sleep I had a flashback: "Didn't I acquire a Polish learning book in English for my boyfriend?" I checked this morning and there it is sitting on the bookshelf: "Colloquial Polish" by B.W. Mazur My boyfriend never hooked up with learning more than a couple of words while on vacation (Polish as German), but this book might be helpful until I find one of the real grammar books. :) Further input welcome. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| stelingo Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5832 days ago 722 posts - 1076 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Czech, Polish, Greek, Mandarin | Message 6 of 9 12 September 2009 at 2:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have also used the Colloquial Polish by B.W. Mazur and think it is quite good, but more for learning vocabulary and improving listenng skills rather than for grammar. There is an older version by the same author, first published in the 80s I think. This is more a traditional course, lots of grammar and sentences to translate.
universitas.com.pl have a variety of Polish textbooks and grammar books. Some of them are quite specialised, I have one on Polish numbers and one on verbs of motion. (Haven't got round to working through them yet). They also have useful reference books on verb conjugations and noun declensions. I would also recommend 'Polish in 4 weeks' available in several languages, especially if you are just starting Polish. It is a nice Audio course which clear simple grammar explanations and a variety of exercises. I particularly like the quality of the recordings. But don't expect to complete it in 4 weeks though. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| anytram Bilingual Tetraglot Groupie France Joined 5669 days ago 85 posts - 89 votes Speaks: German*, Polish*, French, English Studies: Japanese | Message 7 of 9 12 September 2009 at 2:56pm | IP Logged | ||
I'm not starting at all, but might be giving lessons and so I'll need to brush up my knowledge on grammar. Thank you for your ideas, anyway! :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Leopejo Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6109 days ago 675 posts - 724 votes Speaks: Italian*, Finnish*, English Studies: French, Russian | Message 8 of 9 01 October 2009 at 1:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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If you know Swan's almost 500 page grammar, you also know his "Polish grammar in a nutshell" (76 pages).
On Swan's page you also find an interesting interactive dictionary - not the pdf! - that gives conjugation and declination tables for the Polish words. Edited by Leopejo on 01 October 2009 at 1:17pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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