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Tricky situation: "is" vs "are"

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Ocean
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 Message 25 of 29
21 March 2010 at 6:25pm | IP Logged 
Saying "Languages are my hobby" would be understood. When talking with native English speakers, you are more than likely not going to be using formal English. If you were to say something like "Coins are my hobby" you would be more easily understood than if you were to say "I'm a numismatist."

Sometimes it is better to be colloquial than to be correct. Just my two cents.
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 Message 26 of 29
21 March 2010 at 6:35pm | IP Logged 
Ocean wrote:
Saying "Languages are my hobby" would be understood. When talking with native English speakers, you are more than likely not going to be using formal English. If you were to say something like "Coins are my hobby" you would be more easily understood than if you were to say "I'm a numismatist."

Sometimes it is better to be colloquial than to be correct. Just my two cents.


"Coins are my hobby" strikes me as both colloquial and correct - they're not always opposed.

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 Message 27 of 29
21 March 2010 at 6:46pm | IP Logged 
Ocean wrote:
Sometimes it is better to be colloquial than to be correct. Just my two cents.

As a descriptivist, I say that colloquial is always correct, but when it comes to learning, sometimes we've got to simplify to control the variables.
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Ocean
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 Message 28 of 29
21 March 2010 at 7:29pm | IP Logged 
Volte wrote:
Ocean wrote:
Saying "Languages are my hobby" would be understood. When talking with native English speakers, you are more than likely not going to be using formal English. If you were to say something like "Coins are my hobby" you would be more easily understood than if you were to say "I'm a numismatist."

Sometimes it is better to be colloquial than to be correct. Just my two cents.


"Coins are my hobby" strikes me as both colloquial and correct - they're not always opposed.


Some other people felt that "Languages are my hobby" was incorrect. I agree with you, but my reply was directed at people who felt that that phrasing was incorrect.

Although colloquial and correct are not mutually exclusive, sometimes there is a distinction between the two. For instance people could be criticized for using who when whom is appropriate because it is not proper English, but the overwhelming majority of native speakers don't use whom or even know how to use it.
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Volte
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 Message 29 of 29
22 March 2010 at 5:27am | IP Logged 
Ocean wrote:
Volte wrote:
Ocean wrote:
Saying "Languages are my hobby" would be understood. When talking with native English speakers, you are more than likely not going to be using formal English. If you were to say something like "Coins are my hobby" you would be more easily understood than if you were to say "I'm a numismatist."

Sometimes it is better to be colloquial than to be correct. Just my two cents.


"Coins are my hobby" strikes me as both colloquial and correct - they're not always opposed.


Some other people felt that "Languages are my hobby" was incorrect. I agree with you, but my reply was directed at people who felt that that phrasing was incorrect.

Although colloquial and correct are not mutually exclusive, sometimes there is a distinction between the two. For instance people could be criticized for using who when whom is appropriate because it is not proper English, but the overwhelming majority of native speakers don't use whom or even know how to use it.


'Who' vs 'whom' actually illustrates several possibilities quite well (leaving aside that quite a lot of constructs can be in the grey area between correct and incorrect). Aside from the possibilities you mentioned, it's also quite possible to be wrong and not colloquial, by overcorrecting and using 'whom' when 'who' is correct instead. "Whom are you?" is certainly not colloquial, and certainly quite wrong.




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