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hvorki_ne
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 Message 1 of 25
19 March 2010 at 9:48pm | IP Logged 
Sorry if this has been answered- but I haven't had much luck finding resources for mandarin.The title would be better but I ran out of characters.

Does anyone know of a good book & tape that teaches (traditional) chinese characters with their pronunciation?

Also- a year ago I stumbled on a site that taught chinese characters with the stroke order (and, I think, pronunciation) and had a flash thing that you could draw the character on and it would show your mistakes. Does anyone know where that is?
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Pyx
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20 March 2010 at 12:24am | IP Logged 
You're thinking of skritter(.com)

Most people usually learn from the Heisig books (if they learn the characters upfront), but they don't include the pronunciation. Which is not a bad thing, per se. There are sample chapters on the web. Just google for "Remembering traditional hanzi" and "heisig"
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ChristopherB
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20 March 2010 at 4:01am | IP Logged 
I'm sure there are other options out there, but I would second Pyx's recommendation and include John DeFrancis' Chinese Readers (all in traditional) to learn to read traditional Chinese. You will need the audio accompaniment to learn the pronunciations obviously, but I really think this is the best way to begin learning to read Chinese. It's all about the structure.
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hvorki_ne
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 Message 4 of 25
20 March 2010 at 7:26pm | IP Logged 
I don't think it was skritter... It wasn't a pay site.

I'll look up John de francis's, thanks. :)

Pyx wrote:
Most people usually learn from the Heisig books (if they learn the characters upfront), but they don't include the pronunciation. Which is not a bad thing, per se. There are sample chapters on the web. Just google for "Remembering traditional hanzi" and "heisig"

I may go with that- but I have a really hard time remembering things if I don't know how they're pronounced (weird quirk, I know, it goes the other way as well- I have a hard time understanding spoken things when I don't know how they're spelled).
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Pyx
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20 March 2010 at 11:59pm | IP Logged 
I haven't seen any other site which does that. And skritter used to be free.

I have the same problem as you, btw :) You do get "a" pronunciation for Heisig, though, an English keyword. Which is pretty much as good as the 'proper' pronunciaton, since there's really no connection between the character and how you say it. Which is way you can have it in Mandarin, Cantonese, Korean, Japanese, etc., all with their own pronunciations.
That being said, Heisig never worked for me and I'm learning them by reading and adding to Anki too. But many people swear by it, and I'm the first one to say that this is a much smarter approach than mine..
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21 March 2010 at 6:10pm | IP Logged 
I use the book 'Cracking the Chinese Puzzles' along with the mdbg.net website. In fact you can even use only the mdgb.net website, but the book 'Cracking the Chinese Puzzles' gives you some etymological information on each character, and I think these informations ease the process of memorization of the characters.

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lazyday
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22 March 2010 at 4:25am | IP Logged 
The only bookmark I have that might be of use is the site http://www.nciku.com/ You can write characters with your mouse and it will give you the definition and a sound file plus you can play a flash animation of the character once you have looked it up.

Edited by lazyday on 22 March 2010 at 4:29am

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hvorki_ne
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22 March 2010 at 8:03pm | IP Logged 
Komodo wrote:
I use the book 'Cracking the Chinese Puzzles' along with the mdbg.net website. In fact you can even use only the mdgb.net website, but the book 'Cracking the Chinese Puzzles' gives you some etymological information on each character, and I think these informations ease the process of memorization of the characters.

Can you give me a direct link to that website? I'm coming up with a 'site not found' error. And I think that the etymology does help. My friend learned Japanese, and the more complicated symbols, knowing all the symbols that makes it up helps, so I imagine it's the same in chinese.


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