Anton R. Diglot Groupie Russian Federation Joined 6431 days ago 53 posts - 54 votes 2 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 1 of 15 25 March 2008 at 3:34am | IP Logged |
I didn't know where to post this topic so I decided to post it here..
I recorded a German tongue twister and I want a German native speaker to listen it and say if he had understood all the words. I'm afraid that nobody will understand my speech, not looking at the transcription. But don't try not to upset me, say truth :)
Here is the link http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/sounds/index.asp?sound= 255
Later I'll upload smth in English.
Edited by Anton R. on 25 March 2008 at 3:34am
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raeve Diglot Groupie GermanyRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6354 days ago 65 posts - 66 votes Speaks: EnglishB2, German* Studies: Swedish, Serbian, Spanish
| Message 2 of 15 25 March 2008 at 3:48am | IP Logged |
I didn't understand the first few words, but I understood all the later ones. Your German sounds good, but the Russian accent is pretty obvious, especially in your Rs. They are very hard, you should try to practice speaking those softer :)
I hope you're not upset now ;)
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Anton R. Diglot Groupie Russian Federation Joined 6431 days ago 53 posts - 54 votes 2 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 3 of 15 25 March 2008 at 4:04am | IP Logged |
Well, I've never been taught by a teacher and I had to learn German phonetics by myself. So I'm glad to hear it. :)
Thanks :)
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Julie Heptaglot Senior Member PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6895 days ago 1251 posts - 1733 votes 5 sounds Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, GermanC2, SpanishB2, Dutch, Swedish, French
| Message 4 of 15 25 March 2008 at 4:20am | IP Logged |
"r" is too harsh and in the first "Rundung" sounds to me almost as some guttural "h". But I guess the impression would be much better if you record something "normal", not a tongue twister :).
The last sound in "Ritter" doesn't seem write to me (too much of "e"), maybe a native speaker would express his opinion about it?
I find your accent good and would like to hear it in a normal recording without "r" in virtually every word :).
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ChristopherB Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 6308 days ago 851 posts - 1074 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*, German, French
| Message 5 of 15 25 March 2008 at 6:59am | IP Logged |
Julie wrote:
and in the first "Rundung" sounds to me almost as some guttural "h". |
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I always thought that's how the "r" was supposed to be pronounced?
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Makrasiroutioun Quadrilingual Heptaglot Senior Member Canada infowars.com Joined 6098 days ago 210 posts - 236 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Armenian*, Romanian*, Latin, German, Italian Studies: Dutch, Swedish, Turkish, Japanese, Russian, Arabic (Written)
| Message 6 of 15 25 March 2008 at 9:28am | IP Logged |
Passable. Make sure that you get the stress right (any good grammar book will have a handy section on stress) and listen to http://slowgerman.libsyn.com/ as it might help!
You don't need to uvularise your R's that much, just a little is fine for most regions of Germany. Austrians and Swiss almost always trill their R's, but do what's most comfortable for you. Good job otherwise.
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Earle Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6307 days ago 276 posts - 276 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Norwegian, Spanish
| Message 7 of 15 25 March 2008 at 9:42pm | IP Logged |
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Hmmm... I think that's a bit overly broad. The Viennese use the "Zungen-R", they use the standard German "R" in Oberösterreich" and also in Salzburg. In the Tirol, they also use the back-R, and the same in Vorarlberg. Carinthia is somewhat mixed. In Switzerland, it's mostly the tongue-"r". It's really a patchwork...
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6901 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 8 of 15 26 March 2008 at 5:22am | IP Logged |
Good job. I don't hear anything particularly Russian, I don't hear it as a guttural H - and for what it's worth, I don't think that's how the R is supposed to be pronounced.
As Makrasiroutioun says, you could change your R slightly. There are all kinds of German Rs, so your choice depends on which accent you want.
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