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 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6702 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes  Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 9 of 17 28 December 2009 at 9:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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I also had a look at the Christmas episode with Rab.C.Nesbitt. I would say that it mostly is comprehensible when you pay close attention, but I have also been training Scots over the Christmas holidays. I'm seriously considering using these clips for a bit of sedentary shadowing - the only problem is that it might not be wise for a foreigner to try out the accent in Glasgow.
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| TixhiiDon Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5463 days ago 772 posts - 1474 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, German, Russian Studies: Georgian | Message 10 of 17 28 December 2009 at 10:44pm | IP Logged | ||
Having lived in Glasgow for 5 years, I would say most Glaswegians would be delighted to hear a foreigner having a go at their dialect, as long as they don't suspect you of taking the p***. People from England, on the other hand, would almost certainly be treated with suspicion when doing the same thing! Glaswegians tend to be very proud, but very warm and friendly. Edited by TixhiiDon on 28 December 2009 at 10:49pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Alvinho Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 6233 days ago 828 posts - 832 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish | Message 11 of 17 29 December 2009 at 12:39am | IP Logged | ||
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Does Gerard Buttler have the same accent?
I'll check Rock'n'Rolla out tonight and try to hear his accent and if it's that different from Londoners....unless due to the film he comes up with a Londoner accent. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Risch Groupie United States Joined 5588 days ago 49 posts - 71 votes Speaks: English* | Message 12 of 17 30 December 2009 at 10:01am | IP Logged | ||
Yeah, Ewan McGregor's character and the main cast were deciferable for me, but some of the others on the sidelines were incomprehensible. It's been years since I've seen that film (a great one), but I'm particuarly thinking of an older man in a large, racous pub in the second half of the movie. I just couldn't believe that that man was speaking English. When I saw Layer Cake some years ago a good portion of the dialogue went over my head. I walked out of the theater unsure of the plot and confused by the ending. When it came out on DVD I had to watch it again with subtitles before it made sense. (Obviously not Scottish accents there, I guess thick Cockney or something similar.) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6271 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 13 of 17 30 December 2009 at 2:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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Some, especially more nationalistically-inclined Scots, actually consider Scots to be a different language from English altogether, though closely related to it. I believe Scots even has at least semi-official status in Scotland now. The education system fosters more or less standard English, though, and it tends to be the less well educated who use forms of speech different from standard English.
I think British people in general understand American English well, mainly because so many US films and TV shows are watched over here. The reverse is not always true. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6271 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 14 of 17 30 December 2009 at 5:12pm | IP Logged | ||
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A few additional remarks on Trainspotting the film:
Renton (Ewan McGregor) speaks more or less standard English, as does Sick Boy (Johnnie Lee Miller, who is English). Their accents are not especially strong and I suspect their characters are meant to be a little better educated than the others. Spud, Tommy and Begbie have stronger accents and use more dialect. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| elvisrules Tetraglot Senior Member BelgiumRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5468 days ago 286 posts - 390 votes Speaks: French, English*, Dutch, Flemish Studies: Lowland Scots, Japanese, German | Message 15 of 17 30 December 2009 at 6:21pm | IP Logged | ||
I don't know the facts behind what you say about the relationship between Scottish nationalism and considering Scots as a language, but from my experience that doesn't hold true at all. My uncle who's quite the Scottish nationalist, tends to have a lot of disdain for the language, and remember that it was under Labour that Scots was recognized as a minority language. Anyhow, the earth-old language/dialect debate is irrelevant because Scots is recognized as a language: therefore it is one. And despite the similarities between Scots and English; the historical recognition of Scots as a language; its formerly being a court language; and its centuries old literary tradition, give it a rock-solid claim as a language over dialects such as Zeelandic, which although 40% different from its standard form, Dutch, can claim none of the above points. Another debate is what is a Scottish English dialect and what is Scots, but I'll leave that one out... Edited by elvisrules on 30 December 2009 at 6:22pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| elvisrules Tetraglot Senior Member BelgiumRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5468 days ago 286 posts - 390 votes Speaks: French, English*, Dutch, Flemish Studies: Lowland Scots, Japanese, German | Message 16 of 17 30 December 2009 at 6:23pm | IP Logged | ||
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Another Scottish film to be subtitled in the USA was Ratcatcher.
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