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| datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5584 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French | Message 9 of 17 17 March 2010 at 4:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
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This made me think of the poor pronounciation that many Americans have for the word "our."
"are" is pronounced just like the letter r, but "our" is supposed to be pronounced like "hour" "This is r home" in comparison to "This is our home" I personally enjoy the rolled r, especially in Italian, German, and Spanish. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| GREGORG4000 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5522 days ago 307 posts - 479 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish Studies: Japanese, Korean, Amharic, French | Message 10 of 17 17 March 2010 at 4:25pm | IP Logged | |||||
"Our" is a bad pronunciation of "ure" 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Levi Pentaglot Senior Member United States Joined 5566 days ago 2268 posts - 3328 votes Speaks: English*, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Dutch, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, Italian | Message 11 of 17 17 March 2010 at 4:34pm | IP Logged | |||||
Pronouncing "our" like "are" is not unique to America. It can be heard in non-rhotic dialects as well. In any case, calling it "poor pronunciation" endorses a kind of prescriptivism that modern linguists reject. It's all part of linguistic evolution. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Felidae Diglot Newbie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5406 days ago 28 posts - 34 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English Studies: French | Message 12 of 17 17 March 2010 at 6:28pm | IP Logged | |||||
In the dialects of Brazilian Portuguese spoken in the state of São Paulo (countryside only),and some areas of neighbour states the R in the end of a syllable is like that R. Here, closer to standard:Video 1 Here, very strong accent (the city with the stronger one, i believe, from 55 seconds) Video 2 Edit: I speak close to video 1 xD Edited by Felidae on 17 March 2010 at 6:31pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ManicGenius Senior Member United States Joined 5480 days ago 288 posts - 420 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, French, Japanese | Message 13 of 17 17 March 2010 at 6:57pm | IP Logged | |||||
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There was actually a fascinating accent quiz thing on Facebook (yeah... facebook), that was supposed to pinpoint what your English speaking accent was anywhere on Earth.
It nailed me 100% correctly as a CNY accent (Eastern Great Lakes variant on Midwest). Impressed the hell out of me. Apparently my area has one of the harsher accents to foreign and American ears. People as close as Buffalo think it sounds way too harsh. Box = B/ah/ks Car = K'ah/er Color = K'ah'la'r A very hard A sound applied to both and A and O vowels with a dropping r. Almost like a murmur without anyone emphasis. You know it's different when someone studying English for years can't figure out what the heck you're saying, and often native English speakers feel the same way! Even fellow Americans :-/ 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| annette Senior Member United States Joined 5505 days ago 164 posts - 192 votes Speaks: English* | Message 14 of 17 17 March 2010 at 11:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
I'm not arguing with this, but I want to add that I've heard the rhotic "R" at the beginning of syllables in Mandarin before (mostly in names). Take 瑞典, which you rarely hear with a fully articulated /ʐ/. ETA: After I posted this, I became less and less sure of myself, and I ended up surveying a few native Mandarin speakers I know. Some say 瑞典 with a rhotic R, some say 瑞典 with something that sounds like a mix of /ɻ/ and /ʐ/ (mostly rhotic), and nobody I asked says it with a clear /ʐ/, so take from that what you will. Edited by annette on 18 March 2010 at 12:23am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5421 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 15 of 17 18 March 2010 at 5:02am | IP Logged | |||||
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| ManicGenius Senior Member United States Joined 5480 days ago 288 posts - 420 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, French, Japanese | Message 16 of 17 19 March 2010 at 10:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
Depends on where in the south you live as well. There isn't just *one* southern accent. There's regional flairs to nearly every state (but they tend to cross state lines). I've noticed that people in Maryland and Northern North Carolina typically have a very neutral accent (along with some parts of Virgina). Note this isn't everywhere because oftentimes accents are passed by family. My own family has a slightly offkilter accent compared to the rest of the area due to where my father came from. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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