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| Hello Diglot Groupie Canada Joined 5419 days ago 40 posts - 45 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish | Message 9 of 18 16 February 2010 at 12:54am | IP Logged | ||
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This was easy to understand for me also, maybe a bit less because I only speak 2 Romance languages at the moment, and not perfectly, but from what I understood, Interlingua is some kind of a mix of all Romance languages, am I right? Anyway, I am not sure about learning such kind of language.
@ BartoG: Yes, thanks for the useful post, I might as well consider raising my level of seriousness in my studies of Spanish and proceed further. And @ Iversen: Thanks for the tips, and I natively speak French, so it should be easier to learn more Romance languages in the future :). Just a question: How many Romance languages is there in all? I know that considering minor languages/dialects might complicate this, but still? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6702 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes  Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 10 of 18 16 February 2010 at 6:01am | IP Logged | ||
It is absolutely not a simple question to answer. French, Portuguese, Spanish, Italian and Romanian are beyond discussion, and since the demise of the Franco regime Catalan is probably also. Sardic is certainly a language, but it has something of the character of a dialect bundle with just a fragile written standard to unite it. Occitan is also fragmented into dialects with at least two different writing systems and a very limited number of truly native speakers. Romantsch can be from zero to at least three languages depending on whom you ask, and Aromanian is so far from Dacoromanian that it probably should be seen as an independent language. Italy is also divided between a bewildering arry of dialects, and some see at least Sicilian and maybe the dialect bundle in the Po area as languages, - but the influence from standard Italian has steadily forced them to become less 'deviant'. By the way: Corsican is more like an Italian dialect (or a language in its own right) than it is a French or Occitan dialect. On top of that there is the question of earlier stages of the modern languages and the extinct variants (of which Dalmatian has generally been accepted as an independent language). Personally I think that only Old French is so different from the modern version that you need to treat it as a different language. Plus maybe the extinct construct known as Franco-Provençal. So you see, it is better not to be too preoccupied with formalistic divisions that don't concern you. The dialects are becoming more and more irrelevant for the average language learner, and just learning the main forms of the main languages is a daunting task for most people. Edited by Iversen on 16 February 2010 at 12:29pm 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6959 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese | Message 11 of 18 16 February 2010 at 12:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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Interlingua is an international auxiliary language (IAL)(like esperanto) developed between 1923 and 1951 by the International Auxiliary Language Association (IALA). It is uses the most widely naturalistic IAL, in other words, its vocabulary, grammar and other characteristics are largely derived from natural languages. Interlingua was developed to combine a simple, mostly regular grammar(english) with a vocabulary common to the widest possible range of languages (latin+ international vocabulary)making it unusually easy to learn. Conversely, it is used as a rapid introduction to many natural languages.Educated speakers of English also enjoy this easy comprehension. The immediate comprehension of Interlingua, in turn, makes it unusually easy to learn. Speakers of other languages can also learn to speak and write Interlingua in a short time, thanks to its simple grammar and regular word formation using a small number of roots and affixes.Once learned, Interlingua can be used to learn other related languages quickly and easily, and in some studies, even to understand them immediately
Si vos cognosce anglese plus una lingua romance es multo facil parlar e scriber in pauc tempore . Io ha comenciato a studiar le interlingua de un semana e ora pote jam scriber hic bastante ben .Pote eser que io es facilitate dele facto que io es Italiano e parle jam le linguas romances ma io ha percipite que aunque le capacitate in le altere linguas que io cognosce ha meliorate. Io pense que iste lingua es propedeutic pro qui studia totes linguas e particularmente linguas romances. Interlingua es le latine moderne, que ha essito le unic ceret lingua franca de Europa. Es multe diffundite in Nordic Europe mas ha locutores ubicunque. Salutos. A revider. Vilas Hic sub pote trovar info super interllingua pro anglophones http://interlingua-index.blogspot.com/ Si vos pone la parola "interlingua" de recerca google pote trovar multe info 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6959 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese | Message 12 of 18 16 February 2010 at 12:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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Excusa me
Errores la parola "interlingua" de recerca = la parola interlingua in le motor de recerca le unic ceret lingua franca de = le unic certe lingua... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6959 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese | Message 13 of 18 16 February 2010 at 12:15pm | IP Logged | ||
according wikipedia the most important are 28 , but many of them are just dialects (but you don't have to say it to their speakers of them otherwise it start a dispute) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_languages 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| minus273 Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5764 days ago 288 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, EnglishC2, French Studies: Ancient Greek, Tibetan | Message 14 of 18 16 February 2010 at 12:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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Io scribo interlingua con les inflectiones. Credo que assi es una lingua meliora, al mens plus natural. Edited by minus273 on 16 February 2010 at 12:24pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6959 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese | Message 15 of 18 16 February 2010 at 12:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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Bravo' minus273
Le importante de le lingua es comprender le altere e facer comprender se mesmo Interlingua pote aver aunque differentias proquè no? Le latine medieval vulgar no era le latin classic de grande scriptores e philosophes de Roma era le latine de la gens comune, un de Florenza poteva parlar cun un de Paris o de London sin multe problemas .E no era certe le mesme modo de parlar . Tu es de China e tu parle francese , aunque si tu no parle Italiano o spaniol tu pote viajar in Spania e Italia e facer comprendite te mesme si parle interlingua. Illos penserà que tu parle sua lingua in modo bizarre ma te comprenderà e iste es le que importa. Linguas es pro comunicar no pro professores que combate pro la perfection , le regulas etcetera Salutes 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6959 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese | Message 16 of 18 16 February 2010 at 12:53pm | IP Logged | ||
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Dear Hello
I give you a tip for the comparative study of romance languages EuroComRom - The Seven Sieves: How to Read All the Romance Languages Right Away (Editiones EuroCom) (Paperback) McCann ,Klein, Stegmann Very good book , very good method .Is avalaible on same internet bookshop. Tu es quebecois , alors tu peux lire ici beaucoup de choses interessant sur l'etude sinmultanè de langues romanes . http://www.lingalog.net/dokuwiki/intercomprehension/bibliogr aphie ciao Vilas 1 person has voted this message useful |
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