morganie Newbie United States Joined 5423 days ago 31 posts - 41 votes Studies: Mandarin
| Message 1 of 10 01 March 2010 at 1:22am | IP Logged |
I've been studying Mandarin by myself for a while. Anyways, after I become good at Mandarin, I plan to study Hakka, the language of my boyfriend. I guess I can communicate with him in English or Mandarin, but I think he would really appreciate it if I knew his mother tongue (not to mention that his parents probably know very little Mandarin and basically no English). However, I can find absolutely no resources for Hakka in English, and the materials that I find for Hakka all seem to be either in traditional Chinese (which is not what I am learning for now) or contain no text at all (in other words, all audio).
Are there any good resources I can study it through? How about some dictionaries they have for Mandarin, where they list the characters and their corresponding phonetic romanizations?
Although Hakka is just "on my hit list" for now, I just want to track down resources now, because they seem to be so far and few in between.
Edited by morganie on 01 March 2010 at 1:23am
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newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6378 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map
| Message 2 of 10 01 March 2010 at 1:36am | IP Logged |
You might have better luck asking your question at http://www.chinese-forums.com/.
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jimbo Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6293 days ago 469 posts - 642 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Japanese, Latin
| Message 3 of 10 01 March 2010 at 2:26am | IP Logged |
Maybe you can find something at the Council for Hakka Affairs web site:
http://www.hakka.gov.tw/lp.asp?CtNode=2193&CtUnit=330&BaseDS D=7&mp=2192&ps=
It will be in traditional characters.
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Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5421 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 4 of 10 01 March 2010 at 5:00am | IP Logged |
Is Hakka a written language?
Kind of OT, but I have a friend who knows Hakka natively
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Ichiro Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6208 days ago 111 posts - 152 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, French Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Korean, Malay
| Message 5 of 10 01 March 2010 at 6:49am | IP Logged |
I sympathise. I've had almost no luck finding stuff for Hokkien.
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jimbo Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6293 days ago 469 posts - 642 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Japanese, Latin
| Message 6 of 10 01 March 2010 at 8:39am | IP Logged |
There is a bit more stuff for Hokkien now but since there are so many different names for the same (or similar) thing it becomes more problematic to track down. I have a bunch of links on my home computer I'll try to post later.
Can also search for:
Taiwanese
Taiwanese Min
Min Nan
Southern Min
Hoklo
Fukianese
Fujianese
Amoy
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morganie Newbie United States Joined 5423 days ago 31 posts - 41 votes Studies: Mandarin
| Message 7 of 10 01 March 2010 at 5:37pm | IP Logged |
I found this Hakka-English dictionary that looks pretty good:
http://ebook.lib.hku.hk/CADAL/B31445044/
I thought that after I'm proficient at Mandarin, I would just go through this dictionary and learn Hakka pronunciations for each character. But then this dictionary is over 100 years old, so would this not be a good source? Would a Hakka speaker of now speak like how the language is taught in this dictionary?
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Raincrowlee Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 6701 days ago 621 posts - 808 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Indonesian, Japanese
| Message 8 of 10 01 March 2010 at 7:36pm | IP Logged |
I think one of your problems (among many for people trying to study Chinese dialects) is that Hakka seems to have developed into a number of its own dialects that are not completely intelligible. My wife is from Indonesia and Hakka is one of her family's languages, but she said that there were at least two types of Hakka in Taiwan, and that she didn't understand either of them.
Have you thought about recording your boyfriend? If you had dialogs or phrases that you wanted to learn, you could record him saying them with a program like Audacity and make MP3s for yourself. My wife used to do this with me to learn how to say certain words. That way you could learn the specific type of Hakka that your boyfriend's family speaks.
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