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| Leopejo Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6052 days ago 675 posts - 724 votes  Speaks: Italian*, Finnish*, English Studies: French, Russian | Message 1 of 12 01 May 2008 at 3:08am | IP Logged | |||||
As I wrote in the New TAC thread:
In these less than two months I completed Russian Pimsleur (sic! sigh!), but still feel as a beginning beginner. My learning plan for Russian: - Listening - Reading Le Petit Prince - finally starting Assimil and Princeton - learning to handwrite cyrillic with a readable style, for a personal project (my Latin Alphabet handwriting resembles that of a doctor writing a recipe) - in more advanced phases Listening - Reading to some Russian classics. Onegin is definitely on my list, even if it would make my Russian worse. If I find it, one day I'll like to (listening-) read Dr. Zhivago. - more actively participating with my Russian language on internet forums and such, relying less on the way-too-easy-to-use automatic online translation. Other languages: - Listening - Reading the same Petit Prince en francais, and maybe continuing with some other French (audio)books. - Let's discount Latin, Polish for the moment. Finally, my current level (please, don't correct. I want to be able to correct by myself at the end of the year): Он один, она одна. Почему они не вместе? Они вместе. Но он еще один, она еще одна тоже. Почему они вместе? Way to go for Pushkin! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6540 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 2 of 12 01 May 2008 at 7:35am | IP Logged | |||||
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I won't correct it but I'll say there's just one mistake ;) plus one small word that I'd add just for the poem to flow more naturally :-)
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| Leopejo Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6052 days ago 675 posts - 724 votes Speaks: Italian*, Finnish*, English Studies: French, Russian | Message 3 of 12 01 May 2008 at 8:02am | IP Logged | |||||
Argh! It was better if you said nothing! ;-) You can tell my errors, I would not resist until the end of the year knowing that there are. :-D
Good luck to you too, I'm particularly curious about your Latin. At least, there is very much in common with Russian regarding the use of cases and prepositions :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6540 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 4 of 12 01 May 2008 at 8:47am | IP Logged | |||||
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Ok. тоже sounds unnatural at the end of the sentence, although knowing how unpredictable Russian is I assume it's possible to make a sentence in which it sounds ok. I won't tell you yet what small word I meant ;P
As for Latin, I've been studying it for four years now, but at school I didn't really learn much. Now at university I have a REALLY strict teacher :) What's your background in Latin btw? And does it help with your Russian? :)) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Leopejo Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6052 days ago 675 posts - 724 votes Speaks: Italian*, Finnish*, English Studies: French, Russian | Message 5 of 12 02 May 2008 at 4:59am | IP Logged | |||||
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Update: Day 1
Day 1: nothing. Unless you count parallelizing some texts. Excuses: flu, May 1st, important football game on TV.
Thanks, Serpent. Do you never use тоже at the end of any sentence, or is it just in my sentence? I'll sue Pimsleur otherwise ;-) I did five years of Latin at school, but pretty much stopped it after two years. Now I'd like to resume it a bit. Yes, Latin has helped me. The cases are almost the same (Latin ablative is both the Russian instrumental and prepositional (?), with an old case, locative, still found in some words and with the same -e ending as in the Russian в гостинице), and with almost the same uses. Russian maybe uses genitive much more than Latin. Instead, Italian doesn't have cases, while Finnish doesn't have (the common) prepositions. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6540 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 6 of 12 02 May 2008 at 7:56am | IP Logged | |||||
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Could you give a particular example from Pimsleur? I can't think of a sentence where тоже sounds correct at the end of the sentence, but as I said, I won't be surprised if it turns out possible, because I know how unpredictable Russian is :D
By the way, I think the cases when Russian uses genitive and Latin doesn't are often the ones when Finnish uses partitive ;) And get well soon! :) Edited by Serpent on 02 May 2008 at 7:56am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Leopejo Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6052 days ago 675 posts - 724 votes Speaks: Italian*, Finnish*, English Studies: French, Russian | Message 7 of 12 02 May 2008 at 9:52am | IP Logged | |||||
If you don't mind, I wouldn't like to listen again to the 45 hours of Pimsleur just to find an end-of-sentence тоже... Besides, I'm not 100 % sure that it happens, just a feeling.
I have no idea of the Finnish partitive! I left Finnish school at an age of ten. But for example для and из would require other cases in Latin. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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