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nadia
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 Message 17 of 28
27 January 2010 at 12:13pm | IP Logged 
Pyx wrote:
Here's the equivalent for Chinese: Why Chinese is so Damn Hard
Highly recommended!

Very interesting article! Thanks for the link. But also daunting and fascinating at the same time. :)

From the article:
Quote:
8. Because tonal languages are weird.
Okay, that's very Anglo-centric, I know it.

It is very anglo-centric. Somehow people whose native language is English never seem to stop and consider that their language is just as hard for the foreigners. I can tell you that 12 English tenses and phrasal verbs are a very hard concept for Russians, as we only have 3 tenses - Present, Past and Future. The phrasal verbs correspond roughly to prefixes, though. But it's still hard, believe me. A lot of people never manage it to the working level though they learn it at school for years.

10 Reasons Why English Is A Hard Language

Edited by nadia on 28 January 2010 at 6:12am

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zooplah
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 Message 18 of 28
03 February 2010 at 5:33pm | IP Logged 
Captain Haddock wrote:
The nice thing about learning Japanese is that once you do, you know you can learn any language. :)


LOL, my brother was studying Japanese and he would discuss it. I don't remember much about it. I remember us observing the structural similarities between Japanese and Esperanto. I think the only thing I remember is "Nihongo" means "Japanese" (I also remember there being two types of verbs, but I can't remember what they are). Maybe I'll study it one of these days; finishing up my Spanish book and then trying German again are my two immediate language goals though.
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nescafe
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 Message 19 of 28
03 February 2010 at 8:27pm | IP Logged 
Very inetersting, but I was shocked a bit at first reading.

By the way, I always be asked about sushi by people when travelling out of Japan.
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zooplah
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 Message 20 of 28
03 February 2010 at 11:16pm | IP Logged 
nadia wrote:
Somehow people whose native language is English never seem to stop and consider that their language is just as hard for the foreigners. I can tell you that 12 English tenses and phrasal verbs are a very hard concept for Russians, as we only have 3 tenses - Present, Past and Future.


My native language is English and I know it's hard. Heck, my father is monolingual and he always talks about how hard English is. I told him once that English grammar is relatively simple and he laughed at me. Of course, his main gripe is the spelling. He says about English, "All words are outlaw words." Of course, I never realized how needlessly difficult English was until I started studying Esperanto.

I wasn't aware of 12 tenses in English. It seems to me that there are only four forms: the infinitive, the present, the past, and the imperative (to play, play/plays, played, play). Can and shall also have conditional forms (could and should). Be also conjugates by person and number, and has present and past subjunctive forms (be and were, though they're usually ignored and people just use the past and present indicative).
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Pyx
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 Message 21 of 28
04 February 2010 at 1:48am | IP Logged 
zooplah wrote:

My native language is English and I know it's hard. Heck, my father is monolingual and he always talks about how hard English is. I told him once that English grammar is relatively simple and he laughed at me.

I can assure you, that everybody - especially monoglots - think that their language is very hard, if not the hardest :)
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Johntm
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 Message 22 of 28
04 February 2010 at 6:47am | IP Logged 
nadia wrote:
12 English tenses
There are 12 English tenses? I know there are more than three, but as far as I'm concerned there's three-Past (what you did/have done, Present-what you are doing, and Future-what you will do)
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Captain Haddock
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 Message 23 of 28
04 February 2010 at 8:17am | IP Logged 
Johntm wrote:
nadia wrote:
12 English tenses
There are 12 English tenses? I know there are more
than three, but as far as I'm concerned there's three-Past (what you did/have done, Present-what you are doing,
and Future-what you will do)


It depends on whether you consider the perfect/imperfect distinction to be an aspect or a tense. In school I was
taught that English had 6 tenses (past/present/future/past-perfect/present-perfect/future-per fect), two voices,
two aspects (indicative and progressive) and several moods (potential, subjunctive, etc.). If you count the tense-
aspect combinations and ignore the rest, you get 12 different verb forms.
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Pyx
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 Message 24 of 28
04 February 2010 at 8:25am | IP Logged 
Captain Haddock wrote:
Johntm wrote:
nadia wrote:
12 English tenses
There are 12 English tenses? I know there are more
than three, but as far as I'm concerned there's three-Past (what you did/have done, Present-what you are doing,
and Future-what you will do)


It depends on whether you consider the perfect/imperfect distinction to be an aspect or a tense. In school I was
taught that English had 6 tenses (past/present/future/past-perfect/present-perfect/future-per fect), two voices,
two aspects (indicative and progressive) and several moods (potential, subjunctive, etc.). If you count the tense-
aspect combinations and ignore the rest, you get 12 different verb forms.

Wow, that shows me once again that it was a very good decision to ignore all that crap ;P


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