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nadia Triglot Groupie Russian Federation Joined 5513 days ago 50 posts - 98 votes Speaks: Russian*, English, French Studies: Hindi
| Message 25 of 28 04 February 2010 at 11:33am | IP Logged |
Er... I understand that it depends on what you call "tense" but without getting into scientific disputes - we had tables in our textbooks when we studied English which clearly showed the 12 tenses (very useful, by the way):
Present Simple - study
Present Continuous/Progressive - am studying
Present Perfect - have studied
Present Perfect Continuous - have been studying
Past Simple - studied
Past Continuous/Progressive - was studying
Past Perfect - had studied
Past Perfect Continuous - had been studying
Future Simple - will study
Future Continuous/Progressive - will be studying
Future Perfect - will have studied
Future Perfect Continuous - will have been studying
The last one is not used often, as I understand, but I have seen it used a couple of times in some book or other... And then there's the Passive Voice and Subjunctive Mood and so on and so forth. And the articles - the ban of my life. I still make mistakes with articles.
Now, after 15 years of studying English (10 years at school and 5 years at the uni, majoring in it), it does seem simple, all right, compared to, say, Latin. But I'm sure if I spent quite so much time on any other language, it wouldn't seem particularly difficult, either.
Edited by nadia on 07 February 2010 at 10:23am
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| Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6767 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 26 of 28 04 February 2010 at 2:24pm | IP Logged |
By contrast, Japanese is often considered to have just two tenses, the perfect and imperfect. Not that Japanese
verbs are any less intricate or expressive (quite the contrary) when you get right down to it.
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| Levi Pentaglot Senior Member United States Joined 5566 days ago 2268 posts - 3328 votes Speaks: English*, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Dutch, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, Italian
| Message 27 of 28 04 February 2010 at 8:45pm | IP Logged |
I'm learning Japanese largely because it's so hard. I love an intellectual challenge, and after reaching an advanced level in French and Esperanto plus an intermediate level in Spanish and German, and getting my degree in linguistics, I think I'm up to the task of taking on real beasts like Chinese and Japanese. It's fun. :)
Edited by Levi on 04 February 2010 at 8:48pm
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| Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5421 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 28 of 28 04 February 2010 at 11:41pm | IP Logged |
Pyx wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
Johntm wrote:
There are 12 English tenses? I know there are more
than three, but as far as I'm concerned there's three-Past (what you did/have done, Present-what you are doing,
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It depends on whether you consider the perfect/imperfect distinction to be an aspect or a tense. In school I was
taught that English had 6 tenses (past/present/future/past-perfect/present-perfect/future-per fect), two voices,
two aspects (indicative and progressive) and several moods (potential, subjunctive, etc.). If you count the tense-
aspect combinations and ignore the rest, you get 12 different verb forms. |
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Wow, that shows me once again that it was a very good decision to ignore all that crap ;P |
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I would like to second what Pyx said.
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