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neurosport Diglot Newbie United States diy-av.net Joined 5449 days ago 12 posts - 11 votes Speaks: English, Russian* Studies: French, German, Spanish
| Message 17 of 32 01 February 2010 at 2:00pm | IP Logged |
Paskwc wrote:
Its not very accessible, but I found a report for Europe.
Rep
ort.
On page 72 of Adobe Reader (page 70 of the report), there is an overview of who's
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Very nice! Thanks!
It is very weird for me as a Russian living in America to see that in Europe almost as many people study Russian as Spanish.
In US everybody is studying Spanish due to out of control immigration from Mexico. Dominance of Spanish in the Latin America is of course also a factor. Russian on the other hand is not even on the radar, since we don't have any pipelines going that way.
It is also weird to see that French and German are so far ahead of Spanish. After all, Spanish is much more commonly spoken worldwide.
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| GauchoBoaCepa Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5418 days ago 172 posts - 199 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish
| Message 18 of 32 01 February 2010 at 2:22pm | IP Logged |
neurosport wrote:
GauchoBoaCepa wrote:
I'd dare to state that: English 60%, Spanish 30%, French 10%, Italian 8% and German 5% and Russian 1%. |
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Sorry, but that is nothing more than your fantasy.
If you look at the six official languages of the UN, you have missed Chinese and Arabic.
Wikipedia - Official Languages of UN
China is on course to become world's number 1 economy, while Islam is on schedule to become world's number 1 religion.
I don't see your list accounting for any of that. |
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I didn't mean to include Chinese and Arabic because I based on the European table...
All right, here we go....Mandarin: 2% Arabic 1%
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| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5452 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 19 of 32 01 February 2010 at 2:56pm | IP Logged |
neurosport wrote:
It is also weird to see that French and German are so far ahead of Spanish. After all, Spanish is much more commonly spoken worldwide. |
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It is not so weird when you consider that French and German are much more widely spoken than Spanish in Europe. When you compare the economic power of the German speaking countries as opposed to that of Spain, it is not so weird either. After all, people and businesses in Europe are much more likely to deal with France, Belgium, Germany, Austria and Switzerland than with Latin America.
Then you have tradition and history. French and German have for decades, if not centuries, been popular foreign languages in many European countries. There are probably a lot more French and German language teachers available than Spanish teachers.
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| Ulmo Diglot Newbie Joined 6085 days ago 20 posts - 22 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English
| Message 20 of 32 01 February 2010 at 6:39pm | IP Logged |
There might also be a good percentage in the number of Japanese language students in Brazil. Interest on Japanese has grown amazingly over the last few years.
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| Paskwc Pentaglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5676 days ago 450 posts - 624 votes Speaks: Hindi, Urdu*, Arabic (Levantine), French, English Studies: Persian, Spanish
| Message 21 of 32 01 February 2010 at 8:25pm | IP Logged |
neurosport wrote:
China is on course to become world's number 1 economy, while Islam is on schedule to
become world's number 1 religion.
I don't see your list accounting for any of that. |
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True, but I wonder how much Islam's population boom will actually effect language
learning in the Americas. Even in so called Islamic places such as Pakistan, Iran, and
Malaysia, Arabic takes a back seat to the likes of English and French. Similarly, South
America, which is predominately Roman Catholic, does not show much interest in Latin.
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| Ulmo Diglot Newbie Joined 6085 days ago 20 posts - 22 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English
| Message 22 of 32 02 February 2010 at 12:29am | IP Logged |
Paskwc wrote:
True, but I wonder how much Islam's population boom will actually effect language
learning in the Americas. Even in so called Islamic places such as Pakistan, Iran, and
Malaysia, Arabic takes a back seat to the likes of English and French. Similarly, South
America, which is predominately Roman Catholic, does not show much interest in Latin. |
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There's a great difference between Islam and Christianity concerning the holy books: translating the Bible into as many languages as possible has been firmly encouraged over the last few centuries, while a good Muslim, in order to avoid mistranslating, is supposed to read the Qur'an in its original language.
After all, Latin isn't even Bible's original language.
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| Saif Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5611 days ago 122 posts - 208 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Levantine)*, French
| Message 23 of 32 02 February 2010 at 12:37am | IP Logged |
Ulmo wrote:
Paskwc wrote:
True, but I wonder how much Islam's population boom will actually effect language
learning in the Americas. Even in so called Islamic places such as Pakistan, Iran, and
Malaysia, Arabic takes a back seat to the likes of English and French. Similarly, South
America, which is predominately Roman Catholic, does not show much interest in
Latin. |
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There's a great difference between Islam and Christianity concerning the holy books:
translating the Bible into as many languages as possible has been firmly encouraged
over the last few centuries, while a good Muslim, in order to avoid mistranslating, is
supposed to read the Qur'an in its original language.
After all, Latin isn't even Bible's original language. |
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I'm all for translations, as long as they are accurate. There are many poor
translations of the Qur'an that bigots use to bash Islam and Muslims. That's what
concerns Muslims. If you know Arabic, you would know that translating the Qur'an is a
more difficult task than translating the Bible.
Off-topic: If anyone is looking for a good translation of the Qur'an, I recommend Tarif
Khalidi's "The Qur'an: A New Translation".
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