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| Wilco Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6329 days ago 160 posts - 247 votes  Speaks: French*, English, Russian | Message 9 of 14 11 February 2010 at 6:26am | IP Logged | |||||
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About the subtitles - is this a mainland thing, or do they subtitle everything in Singapour, HK, Taiwan and Japan?
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| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6581 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 10 of 14 11 February 2010 at 7:00am | IP Logged | |||||
All I know is there are a lot of movies circulating the web with traditional subtitles (as opposed to simplified, which is used on the mainland). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Pyx Diglot Senior Member China Joined 5734 days ago 670 posts - 892 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Mandarin | Message 11 of 14 11 February 2010 at 7:10am | IP Logged | |||||
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I have no idea about Japan, and I'm not sure about singapore, but it's certainly standard for the mainland, HK, and TW
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| IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6436 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 12 of 14 11 February 2010 at 7:18am | IP Logged | |||||
Hey! :P Some of their music is actually pretty well-composed :D As for Chinese, I never said you had to sing the language, but I just figured if a word is a falling tone, but the note that you are singing that word over in the song is rising in pitch, that it must totally mess up the meaning of the word because it's no longer a falling tone, it's a rising tone. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6581 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 13 of 14 11 February 2010 at 7:21am | IP Logged | |||||
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Also: Mandarin singing does not only disregard tones, but also stress patterns. You'll commonly find stress put on neutral tones (which are by definition unstressed) and the stress changed on other words, too. Take "happy birthday", for example. In English, it goes "Happy BIRTHday to you" Singing, with the same melody, "Good birthDAY to you, sir" or something similar would sound off, since it messes with the stress patterns in English. Mandarin doesn't care, though. It's "Zhu ni SHENGri kuaile", despite the fact that the stress in the word sheng1ri4 is, I would argue, on the second syllable. Cantonese has, I believe, no version of this song, since it wouldn't work with the tones (and stress patterns?).
All this makes Mandarin music of any genre an … aqcuired taste (I have not yet acquired it). Luckily for people such as me, there's Chinese rap, which of course preserves the tones. Just check out this awesome rap. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Pyx Diglot Senior Member China Joined 5734 days ago 670 posts - 892 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Mandarin | Message 14 of 14 11 February 2010 at 7:23am | IP Logged | |||||
I didn't mean you, just in general :) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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