sigiloso Heptaglot Groupie Portugal Joined 6778 days ago 87 posts - 103 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2, PortugueseC1, Galician, French, Esperanto, Italian Studies: Russian, Greek
| Message 1 of 6 12 February 2010 at 8:43pm | IP Logged |
Sorry, can anyone help me with a tiny problem, how to stress German compounds words?, such as
eine Briefmarke
I suppose there are a main and a secondary stress, but placed where?
I cant find the information and is driving me crazy.
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tikho Newbie United States Joined 5399 days ago 2 posts - 3 votes Studies: Dutch
| Message 2 of 6 13 February 2010 at 12:39am | IP Logged |
From the book on my desk: "In a German compound noun the first element carries the main stress" (Hammer's German Grammar and Usage by Martin Durrell).
The German Wiktionary marks stress in the IPA transcription: [ˈbʀiːfˌmaʁkə]. The main stress follows the apostraphe, and the secondary stress follows the ˌ (don't know what that's called). There are audio pronunciations of many words on on dict.cc too.
Edited by tikho on 13 February 2010 at 12:40am
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Pyx Diglot Senior Member China Joined 5734 days ago 670 posts - 892 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Mandarin
| Message 3 of 6 13 February 2010 at 5:08am | IP Logged |
What tikho said is right.
Wouldn't listening to even a bit of real German have answered that question too?
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meramarina Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5966 days ago 1341 posts - 2303 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Italian, French Personal Language Map
| Message 4 of 6 13 February 2010 at 6:09am | IP Logged |
I use the online dictionary dict.cc
On the right side of the screen, there's an option to hear a sound recording of the word or phrase. Sometimes it's a computer, but most of the time it's a human, and it's very helpful for learning pronunciations.
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GREGORG4000 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5522 days ago 307 posts - 479 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish Studies: Japanese, Korean, Amharic, French
| Message 5 of 6 13 February 2010 at 9:05pm | IP Logged |
According to Assimil German Without Toil:
In compound words of two or more elements, each of them keeps its stress, but the first one is predominant.
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sigiloso Heptaglot Groupie Portugal Joined 6778 days ago 87 posts - 103 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2, PortugueseC1, Galician, French, Esperanto, Italian Studies: Russian, Greek
| Message 6 of 6 15 February 2010 at 2:47pm | IP Logged |
Thank you all! You're great. I forgot to check the Wicktionary!
You are right about listening, but careful, secondary stress is not that easy to perceive. Italians do this systematically wrong, because for them stress is more a question of length of the vowel, and so their German is peculiar-incorrect.
I wanted to prevent any bad habit formation from the start, and phonetic transcription impresses visual memory and creates good habits. I am addicted to it.
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