Pineapple123 Triglot Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5397 days ago 2 posts - 2 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: Russian, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, Latin, Arabic (classical), German, Italian
| Message 1 of 9 15 February 2010 at 12:32pm | IP Logged |
Hello,
Two of the languages that I am studying are Arabic and Japanese.
Can anyone help me locate some good ones, that are available on the internet?
If you can, could you also refer me to a good Arabic dictionary?
I am looking more for reviews on grammar books and feedback on the good ones.
Many thanks,
Steven
Edited by Pineapple123 on 15 February 2010 at 1:59pm
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ericspinelli Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5782 days ago 249 posts - 493 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Italian
| Message 2 of 9 15 February 2010 at 1:31pm | IP Logged |
You didn't look very hard, did you? Most of the resources that I link to below show up in this simple search. For the benefit of all:
Free:
Tae Kim's Japanese Grammar Guide
The NihongoResources Book - "An introduction to Japanese - Syntax, Grammar & Language"
Not free:
A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar
A Dictionary of Intermediate Japanese Grammar
A Dictionary of Advanced Japanese Grammar
どんな時どう使う 日本語表現文型辞典
どんな時どう使う 日本語表現文型500―日本語能力試験1・2級対
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translator2 Senior Member United States Joined 6918 days ago 848 posts - 1862 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 3 of 9 15 February 2010 at 2:33pm | IP Logged |
Thank you so much for this link. This one was new to me!
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ericspinelli Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5782 days ago 249 posts - 493 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Italian
| Message 4 of 9 15 February 2010 at 3:42pm | IP Logged |
translator2 wrote:
Thank you so much for this link. This one was new to me! |
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I haven't actually read this version, but the earlier versions were excellent and NihongoResources is a solid site. I still use the draft version (Ed. 5) of An Introduction to Japanese Grammar for its comprehensive conjugation charts, because it also includes tables for the little oddities like ずる and ます.
The fact that the author is neither a native of Japanese or English is also a nice little success story in and of itself.
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Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6767 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 5 of 9 15 February 2010 at 4:01pm | IP Logged |
I have a dream of writing the Great Japanese Grammar, which pays attention to thinks like ずる verbs, する verbs
that act like す verbs, and that weird -aん volitional form.
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ericspinelli Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5782 days ago 249 posts - 493 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Italian
| Message 6 of 9 16 February 2010 at 9:49am | IP Logged |
Captain Haddock wrote:
and that weird -aん volitional form. |
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Isn't that just (semi-) classical Japanese, minus one or two set phrases (んがため)?
I'm not big into poetry, but I enjoy this poem by 萩原朔太郎 (Hagiwara Sakutaro). This is where I first encountered the volitional ん and む.
旅上
ふらんすへ行きたしと思へども
ふらんすはあまりに遠し
せめては新しき背広をきて
きままなる旅にいでてみん。
汽車が山道をゆくとき
みづいろの窓によりかかりて
われひとりうれしきことをおもはむ
五月の朝のしののめ
うら若草のもえいづる心まかせに
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Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6767 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 7 of 9 16 February 2010 at 10:03am | IP Logged |
My impression was that the む volitional was classical Japanese, and ん was vestigial or archaic like ぬ negatives or
たる adjectives, but I could be wrong.
It pops up just often enough in modern Japanese to remind me that it's still there, and not just in the んばかり
construction, although that's probably the most common (and your んがため). I see it about once or so every novel I
read. It's also one of those things I've never seen covered in a textbook for learners.
Cool poem. Japanese poetry can be really wonderful.
Edited by Captain Haddock on 16 February 2010 at 10:07am
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ericspinelli Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5782 days ago 249 posts - 493 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Italian
| Message 8 of 9 16 February 2010 at 10:51am | IP Logged |
I had originally thought of んばかり as well. However, 『どんな時どう使う』 makes mention of ~ぬばかり being valid and equivalent to ~んばかり, and makes no mention of any alternatives for ~んがため. It's hard to interpret a lack of information!
This chart of classical verb endings (and their respective conjugations) lists ん as an alternate to む, and makes no mention of ず/ぬ becoming ん. If the habit to pronounce ぬ as ん started before the use of む/ん as a volitional died off, perhaps there was even some merging?
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