tuffy Triglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 7033 days ago 1394 posts - 1412 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German Studies: Spanish
| Message 9 of 37 21 January 2006 at 5:56pm | IP Logged |
I had to look up "transliterated" (using the closest corresponding letters of a different alphabet or language.)
I get it, thanks.
Edited by tuffy on 21 January 2006 at 5:57pm
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Qbe Tetraglot Senior Member United States joewright.org/var Joined 7134 days ago 289 posts - 335 votes Speaks: English*, Latin, Ancient Greek, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Japanese, German, Mandarin, Aramaic
| Message 10 of 37 21 January 2006 at 7:35pm | IP Logged |
dadafeig wrote:
just that the alphabet is difficult. I would probaly enjoy learning it because I have learned different writing alphabets before. |
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You shouldn't have any trouble with the Hebrew alphabet, then. In school we learned it in a day. Overall Biblical Hebrew was one of the easier languages I've learned, but I've never tried modern.
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JLanguage Newbie United States Joined 7146 days ago 31 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 11 of 37 22 January 2006 at 8:38am | IP Logged |
Spoken Hebrew is definitely pretty simple, though the core vocabulary is completely different from Indo-Europeam languages. The difficulty lies with the alphabet. I agree that the alphabet isn't too difficult, and is very phonetic when the text is vowelized. However, other than poetry and children's books, virtually all printed Modern Hebrew is unvowelized.
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erinserb Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 7195 days ago 135 posts - 144 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 12 of 37 24 January 2006 at 9:52am | IP Logged |
Does anyone know if learning Hebrew would help someone who also wants to learn some Yiddish?
Don't they have related Semitic alphabets?
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Darobat Diglot Senior Member Joined 7187 days ago 754 posts - 770 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Latin
| Message 13 of 37 24 January 2006 at 10:29am | IP Logged |
Yes. To quote Wikipedia
Wikipedia wrote:
Yiddish uses the basic Hebrew alphabet extended with several digraphs and letters modified with diacritical marks that are not used in the Hebrew language. Some letters that are consonants in Hebrew are used as vowels in Yiddish, providing an orthography that permits a fully phonetic representation of that language. |
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Edited by Darobat on 24 January 2006 at 10:29am
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awb Groupie United States Joined 6873 days ago 46 posts - 48 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 14 of 37 29 January 2006 at 5:47pm | IP Logged |
And the vocabulary of Yiddish comes mostly from German.
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fanatic Octoglot Senior Member Australia speedmathematics.com Joined 7145 days ago 1152 posts - 1818 votes Speaks: English*, German, French, Afrikaans, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Dutch Studies: Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Modern Hebrew, Malay, Mandarin, Esperanto
| Message 15 of 37 02 February 2006 at 4:18am | IP Logged |
erinserb wrote:
Does anyone know if learning Hebrew would help someone who also wants to learn some Yiddish?
Don't they have related Semitic alphabets? |
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If you can read Hebrew you can pretty well read Yiddish and if you can speak and understand German you can almost understand spoken Yiddish. You will understand a lot. It is still a bit of work to put the written words into your sight vocabulary. I still have to decipher a lot of Yiddish words when I read as I have been rather lazy with reading Yiddish. I found it to be hard work. I guess I just wasn't motivated.
I can understand a lot of the Yiddish radio programs we get here in Melbourne, Australia. It depends a lot on who is speaking and which kind of Yiddish they are speaking.
If you learn the alphabet, and it is not too difficult, you will find you will not have much trouble applying it to both Hebrew and Yiddish. The strange alphabet looks intimidating but it is a lot easier, it seems to me, than Arabic or Sanskrit.
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awb Groupie United States Joined 6873 days ago 46 posts - 48 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 16 of 37 02 February 2006 at 4:24pm | IP Logged |
Yeah, an example of Yiddish being related to German is its word for language being (I guess this is a transliteration) Sprach. Of course I don't know the rules of it with gender and all, but the German word is die Sprache. Fairly similar. I haven't done anything with Hebrew in 6 or 7 years probably, but I can still read it, not fast though. I don't understand more than a few words though, all I can do is actually READ it, so I don't feel the need to put it in my profile as something I know at this point. Maybe later on.
Edited by awb on 03 February 2006 at 4:03pm
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