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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6603 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 17 of 42 01 December 2012 at 11:39am | IP Logged |
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oops I now voted for Norwegian too...
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| languagenerd09 Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom youtube.com/user/Lan Joined 5106 days ago 174 posts - 267 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Thai | Message 18 of 42 06 January 2013 at 7:46pm | IP Logged |
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My main intentions for Scandinavian languages are for Norwegian Bokmål as I have close
friends who speak this language as their native tongue, but I do have resources for all the others, Faroese included. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Jenne:) Tetraglot Newbie Netherlands polyglotquest.wordpr Joined 4473 days ago 38 posts - 56 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German, French Studies: Norwegian | Message 19 of 42 17 January 2013 at 9:37pm | IP Logged |
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I am learning Norwegian (Bokmål). Icelandic is on my wish list. It sounds beautiful, so I would like to learn it. It should not be too hard after Norwegian, although the grammar is a bit daunting. Furthermore, I will most likely attempt to learn Old Norse in the future. I think it's a cool language and very useful, as I love Old English as well. Learning Old Norse would give me the opportunity to do some philological research :). Up until recently, I never considered other Scandinavian languages. But my university offers courses in Swedish, so who knows.
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5340 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 20 of 42 18 January 2013 at 7:04am | IP Logged |
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@Limey75: You need to change your title to Nordic languages or to remove Icelandic and Faroese from your
list. Only Norwegian, Swedish and Danish are Scandinavian languages. If you want to include the whole family you must use the word Nordic which is a more comprehensive term :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4527 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 21 of 42 18 January 2013 at 8:37pm | IP Logged |
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These terms are actually used ambiguously and inconsistently. Scandinavian can be interpreted geographically, which would include Danish (actually not sure about this one), Norwegian, Swedish and Finnish. Or it can be interpreted as North-Germanic, which would include the languages limey listed, but not Finnish.
Nordic on the other hand could include the languages listed by limey plus Finnish, Saami and even "Greenlandish" (ie. Kalaallisut). Or, in a narrower sense, as you used it. I think the only unambiguous term would be North-Germanic. Edited by daegga on 18 January 2013 at 8:39pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4364 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 22 of 42 19 January 2013 at 9:29am | IP Logged |
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I listened to the first couple of pimsleur assimil for danish, and then stopped because I already have too much in my hands. I have a danish friend that I meet every summer in greece, and I wanted to surprise her with my danish! It's not as bad as I thought it would be. I can actually pronounce it! Hopefully I'll spend some time with it before the summer. I was never attracted to learn a scandinavian language before, but friendship will do that to you. My danish friend speaks excellent English and German, by the way.
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| NorwegianNYC Triglot Newbie United States Joined 4345 days ago 10 posts - 21 votes Speaks: English, Norwegian*, German | Message 23 of 42 27 January 2013 at 9:41pm | IP Logged |
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Scandinavia is made up of Norway, Denmark and Sweden. Scandinavian languages, however, is
the same as North Germanic languages, and consists of Danish, Faroese, Icelandic, Nowegian, Swedish - and the rare Elfdalin and Gutnish. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6709 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 24 of 42 28 January 2013 at 1:50am | IP Logged |
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The 'Nordic' languages include Icelandic and Faroese, so the logical thing would be to reserve the word 'Scandinavian' for Swedish, Norwegian, Danish and a few others like those mentioned by NorwegianNYC: Elfdalin and Gutnish. But in practice you can't trust that everyone will stick to that distinction.
Finnish, the Sami languages and Greenlandic are obviously not Nordic or Scandinavian languages, even though Greenland (so far) is part of Denmark and Finland is regarded as one of five Nordic countries. But does it really matter here? The important thing is that the survey mentions 3 'continental' Nordic languages and two 'insular' languages. And the votes clearly go to Swedish and Norwegian. Danish lags far behind, probably because of the rumours about a difficult pronunciation, whereas Icelandic has more votes than you would expect alone from its current number of speakers, probably because of the Sagas (which effectively means that the Icelandic votes also cover those who might be interested in Old Norse). Faroese gets one vote, and I doubt that any other dialects or vanishing minority languages within the group would get any votes even if they were on the list. I have once written something about an Old Gutnish saga, and I have written some tentative messages in Southern Jutish, but that's marginal compared to the interest there is for the languages on the list, and I don't even remember whether anybody else has commented on and quoted or wiritten new stuff in the 'small' languages or in dialects. Norway is a special case because of its two official standard. I have chosen to try to emulate New Norwegian, even though I can't be totally consistent because I haven't got a dictionary from something (eg. Bokmål) into New Norwegian, nor a grammar (although I have read that there is one available now). As stated elsewhere the reason is that I find Bokmål boring because it is too close to Danish. Actually hardcore Danish dialects look more exotic on paper than most of the New Norwegian I have seen on the internet. But the Norwegians themselves predominantly use Bokmål - even if they are far more diverse in their dialects than the written sources suggest. I don't remember whether any other 'outsider' has made the same choice. It would also be interesting to know whether whose who study spoken Norwegian try to adhere to one group of dialects or just let the things they hear decide where they end up (as I do). Edited by Iversen on 29 January 2013 at 6:39am 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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