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cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5837 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 17 of 22 21 January 2010 at 11:46pm | IP Logged |
self edited :-)
Edited by cordelia0507 on 25 January 2010 at 2:58am
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| taKen Tetraglot Senior Member Norway mindofthelinguist.woRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6116 days ago 176 posts - 210 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Dutch, French Studies: German, Icelandic
| Message 18 of 22 24 January 2010 at 1:59pm | IP Logged |
j0nas wrote:
taKen: 'Hvordan' in nynorsk is 'korleis', and not 'koss'. ;)
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Nope, if you write Nynorsk you can choose to write "koss", "hoss", "hossen" or "korleis". :-)
http://www.dokpro.uio.no/perl/ordboksoek/ordbok.cgi?OPP=koss &nynorsk=S%F8k+i+Nynorskordboka&ordbok=bokmaal&alfabet=n&ren set=j
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6702 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 19 of 22 24 January 2010 at 11:52pm | IP Logged |
... which illustrates quite well why it is difficult for outisders to get a decent grip on Nynorsk (or spokenj Norwegian in general).
Edited by Iversen on 24 January 2010 at 11:52pm
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| densou Senior Member Italy foto.webalice.it/denRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6131 days ago 120 posts - 121 votes Speaks: Italian*
| Message 20 of 22 25 January 2010 at 2:36am | IP Logged |
Iversen wrote:
...which illustrates quite well why it is difficult for outisders to get a decent grip on Nynorsk (or spokenj Norwegian in general) |
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*self-complaint* ....only if I were healthy....grrrr
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| doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5985 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese
| Message 21 of 22 26 January 2010 at 11:38am | IP Logged |
As a comedic interlude, I'll just point to this joke video about Danish (from a Norwegian TV show).
Seriously though, perhaps instead of trying to measure "ease" of learning one of these languages through linguistic features, one should consider the available media and learning materials available. Swedish seems to have a large share of the TV/movie/book market, so that might make it a bit easier for a foreigner to learn. Indeed, I've found it quite easy to find the books I want in Swedish, and there are some good websites with Swedish TV shows on them.
However, if I were perhaps already living in northwestern Germany, Danish might be a more logical or easier choice due to physical proximity.
As for written versus spoken, I can already understand almost as much written Danish as I can Swedish, and I haven't been studying Swedish for that long. I can't tell much so far about the spoken differences, since I'm still having trouble with spoken Swedish where I might understand the written version.
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| j0nas Triglot Groupie Norway Joined 5541 days ago 46 posts - 70 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, German
| Message 22 of 22 26 January 2010 at 12:03pm | IP Logged |
Iversen wrote:
... which illustrates quite well why it is difficult for outisders to get a decent grip on Nynorsk (or spokenj Norwegian in general). |
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I agree. BUT, I would argue that "korleis" is used by the large majority of the nynorsk users. Even though you are allowed to use other forms.
In Bokmål, we have the forms "åssen" and "hvorledes" in addition to the normal "hvordan". Noone born after 1930 uses "hvorledes". "Åssen" is quite normal amonst us "southeastern" Norwegians, I use it myself a lot, but I would never even dream of using it in a serious, written text.
The point I am trying to make is that all these "valgformer" we have are relatively useless in the written language, but they might still be useful for understanding what some people are saying.
Edited by j0nas on 26 January 2010 at 12:08pm
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