gdoyle1990 Groupie United States Joined 5619 days ago 52 posts - 60 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Serbian, Estonian
| Message 1 of 14 24 December 2009 at 7:23am | IP Logged |
With the release of James Cameron's new film "Avatar", there has been a lot of buzz about the language created by Paul Frommer for use in the film. As far as I have been able to ascertain, the language isn't developed into an advanced stage yet, but people are already beginning to learn and use the language.
In fact, there is a forum devoted solely to Na'vi, www.learnnavi.org Here.
I think it's really interesting that there are so many people learning this language already, not even one week after the movie was released. Based on what I have ready on the forum, some people are already quite adept at using the language, there are even a few poems and stories!
So, what do you think about the language and its sudden popularity? Could this be another Klingon? Personally, I hope so. It sounds much more beautiful to my ears.
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Risch Groupie United States Joined 5588 days ago 49 posts - 71 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 2 of 14 24 December 2009 at 8:04am | IP Logged |
That makes me laugh. I didn't think it sounded very exotic for an alien species on the
other side of the universe. It sounded like it belongs in Europe (yawn); it reminded me
of Elvish in fact. It could have used some clicks and tones at least. Granted I've only
seen the film once (and there was too much English going on for my taste), but that was
my impression at the time.
Edited by Risch on 24 December 2009 at 8:08am
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Lindsay19 Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5820 days ago 183 posts - 214 votes Speaks: English*, GermanC1 Studies: Swedish, Faroese, Icelandic
| Message 3 of 14 24 December 2009 at 9:17am | IP Logged |
I'm amazed that the movie's fictional language already has a forum. I read through some of the posts, and there are quit a few people who know alot about it and can converse in it. That's pretty nerdy - but I mean that in a good way. More power to them.
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gdoyle1990 Groupie United States Joined 5619 days ago 52 posts - 60 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Serbian, Estonian
| Message 4 of 14 24 December 2009 at 4:48pm | IP Logged |
Risch wrote:
I didn't think it sounded very exotic for an alien species on the
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I agree, the only thing that made it even remotely "exotic" were the ejectives, and anyone living outside of Europe or the Americas wouldn't be impressed by those, nor anyone on these forums. However, it didn't remind me of Elvish that much at all. To me it sounded like they were going for a Native American flair, I haven't decided whether they succeeded or not, though.
Lindsay19 wrote:
I read through some of the posts, and there are quit a few people who know alot about it and can converse in it. That's pretty nerdy - but I mean that in a good way. More power to them. |
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I know, I wish I could become conversational in a natural language as fast as they learned Na'vi.
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zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6371 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 5 of 14 25 December 2009 at 10:07am | IP Logged |
The grammar is somewhat exotic. It's a tripartite language which is rare among human
languages although does exist. So word order is somewhat free. It has infixes for tense
conjugation and an infix for positive (ei) or negative (äng) feelings.
I think he did a marvelous job on Na'vi.
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Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6767 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 6 of 14 25 December 2009 at 10:40am | IP Logged |
I suspect that if James Cameron is as serious about fantasy world-building as he says he is, we're going to see more
movies set in the Pandora universe and hear a lot more Na'vi in the future.
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gdoyle1990 Groupie United States Joined 5619 days ago 52 posts - 60 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Serbian, Estonian
| Message 7 of 14 26 December 2009 at 5:14am | IP Logged |
I find myself changing my opinions on this language. I keep finding something that makes it really interesting, and then I'll find something that makes it unappealing. I must say, it is very original, and at least the creator didn't copy the vocabulary from any language that I'm aware of, it doesn't seem to have any similar vocabulary to Indo-European languages.
I'd love for Frommer to release a more complete grammar and vocabulary listing, and perhaps I would be able to form a better opinion, in the meantime however, it sounds nice *and I trong>loved Avatar*, but it's not something I'd be willing to take the time to learn.
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Ninja Bunny Diglot Groupie United States Joined 5791 days ago 42 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Dutch, Danish, Mandarin, Afrikaans, Greek, Latin, Italian, Spanish, French
| Message 8 of 14 26 December 2009 at 6:28am | IP Logged |
zerothinking wrote:
The grammar is somewhat exotic. It's a tripartite language which is rare among human languages although does exist. So word order is somewhat free. It has infixes for tense conjugation and an infix for positive (ei) or negative (äng) feelings.
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I think so too. While it may not be exotic to some, a good amount of thought and skill went into creating it. I'm impressed. The fluid word order makes me think of Latin and Russian, plus it's the first time I've heard of an infix and I think it's a pretty cool feature. It makes me want to seek out other languages with infixes to compare.
Edited by Ninja Bunny on 26 December 2009 at 6:31am
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