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| healing332 Senior Member United States Joined 5626 days ago 164 posts - 211 votes  | Message 9 of 67 16 July 2009 at 3:48pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
This IS POWERFUL..I have read this forum..people studying for 2 or 3 years and still a beginner?..This is due to taking language learning too serious and lack of speaking..SPEAK TODAY YOUR NEW LANGUAGE!..EVEN THE BIBLE SAYS A LITTLE CHILD SHALL LEAD THE WAY! Why because kids are limitless until adults put limits on them! have fun again people and you will learn!..DO not be afraid to speak and disect your movies..have fun with the words..Mycket..Casa..etc..be silly read in your new language with no translations and you will surprise yourself No one told the Mexican who learned Hebrew or this 6 year old girl about limits and that is why they achieved! Edited by healing332 on 16 July 2009 at 3:49pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| healing332 Senior Member United States Joined 5626 days ago 164 posts - 211 votes | Message 10 of 67 16 July 2009 at 3:55pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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And one more!! FROM DR JOHN CURRID ABOUT BULL HEBREW
"Bull was largely self-taught. As a teenager he taught himself Hebrew with the sole aid of a Hebrew Bible and an old English Bible with Hebrew letters heading the sections of Psalm 119. Once he had discovered that Hebrew is read from the right to left -- and that therefore he must start from the back of the book -- he compared the Hebrew and English words and compiled his own grammar and lexicon! Similarly, at the age of twenty he was given a Latin grammar which he mastered in two weeks, and Greek soon followed." Hebrew students today often complain about the difficulty of learning Hebrew . . . even with all the advantages that students have today with so many grammars, dictionaries, and so forth. Lord, give us more men like Bull! Posted by JC at 2:32 PM 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6017 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 11 of 67 16 July 2009 at 5:13pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Look, would you mind actually reading what I wrote and respond to it rather than attacking some strawman in the corner?
I never said otherwise. However, you're again overselling the research. The link you quote states that adults can learn to differentiate foreign phonemes, which is different from saying that they can learn as well as kids. What I'm saying is that whether they can learn "as well" (for some definition of "well") is irrelevant -- the fact is that the adult brain is demonstrably different from the child brain and we learn differently.
Yes, adults can watch kids TV too. That's beside the point. Material designed for adults does not provide the beneficial features identified by the paper. I have not seen you proposing a diet of such material.
I would agree with this, but the case study you quoted says practically nothing on production. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6157 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian | Message 12 of 67 16 July 2009 at 5:22pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Sorry, I couldn't stop myself, it seemed appropriate. Edited by DaraghM on 16 July 2009 at 5:23pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Pyx Diglot Senior Member China Joined 5741 days ago 670 posts - 892 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Mandarin | Message 13 of 67 16 July 2009 at 5:45pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
-> http://graphjam.com/2009/06/27/song-chart-memes-see-transfor mers/ *scnr* 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| cathrynm Senior Member United States junglevision.co Joined 6131 days ago 910 posts - 1232 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Finnish | Message 14 of 67 16 July 2009 at 8:23pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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>I will not wait 2 years to learn a new language NONSENSE! I refuse to believe this!!
Hey, I'd take 2 years. 2 years goes by faster than you realize. Actually I've run into people, by odd coincidence many of them Finns, who manage to get to pretty high levels of ability in Japanese in about 2 years. From accounts it seems that they just sit down and do the hours of study, though I suspect maybe there is an agglutinative ear that picks up these languages a little easier. A fellow Japanese student I met learned Chinese with traditional characters to pretty high level in about 5 years -- that included time in the country. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| healing332 Senior Member United States Joined 5626 days ago 164 posts - 211 votes | Message 15 of 67 16 July 2009 at 9:02pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
I think in 5 months you should have had your breakthrough where you can understand any basic conversation or readings. My contention is if someone is really learning the language or tinkering with it as a light hobby..it can be ok to just play with it for interest but i do not consider this serious language learning(nothing is wrong with this..it can be a hobby) What you want to do is blast the brain in the 3 ways I meantioned until the breakthrough comes.. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5915 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 16 of 67 16 July 2009 at 9:26pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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Time's all relative, cause different people have different amounts of time that they can commit to studying their language of choice. Even if some of us might like to study more than we do, what with uni, work, family, volunteer work, friends, etc, I find the number of months quoted matter less and less, because one person's fluency in x months just makes it looks a little off when other people take longer, even though people are doing what they can and learning steadily.
Personally I've set my goal of reaching advanced fluency in Italian to 1 year, I hope that's possible but I'm crazy-busy, so if I take 2 years, I'll still have reached advanced fluency in those 2 years, which I would be very happy about. Let's stop raising the bar for people, yeah? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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