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| Darobat Diglot Senior Member Joined 7131 days ago 754 posts - 770 votes  Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Latin | Message 1 of 10 28 October 2007 at 12:46pm | IP Logged |
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Hej!
I've decided to stop debating which language to begin studying and just pick one: Swedish. I have Teach Yourself Swedish with all its audio and The Essentials of Swedish Grammar by Åke Viberg. I plan on using the TY as my main textbook, mostly because of all its audio. Swedish pronunciation seems like it will be the trickiest part for me; lots of vowels and a few tricky consonant sounds, so getting as much audio input right from the start will probably be important. The Essentials of Swedish grammar will be used to supplement the grammar descriptions in the TY book. Though unpopular here, I find I both enjoy and need to explicitly study grammar. So this book will provide me with that opportunity. I'm not sure how much study time I'll get, but hopefully it'll be enough to see some real progress in this comparatively easy language. I never realized how much I've forgotten about studying a language from scratch. My study of Russian for the past two years has not involved a textbook at all, and has mostly consisted of me exposing myself to the language as much as possible. Having a structured textbook seems weird. When I say "go study Swedish", my first instinct is to pull up a Swedish newspaper or e-book, but that of course that won't work. Yet. I probably need to find a good Swedish-English/English-Swedish dictionary. Any good online ones? Which non-electronic dictionary would you recommend? Anything else you think would be helpful? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| strossel Triglot Groupie Joined 6426 days ago 47 posts - 48 votes Speaks: English*, Swedish, French Studies: Icelandic, Hungarian | Message 2 of 10 28 October 2007 at 1:15pm | IP Logged |
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Dictionaries: avoid Prisma or Hippocrene. Also, there's a yellow and blue paperback dictionary which is just another imprint of one of these publishers.
I quite like the Routledge (red and black hard back cover). The best Swedish dictionaries in my opinion are the Norstedts, although I haven't used their Swe-Eng-Eng-Swe, only their Swedish dictionaries (perhaps their 2-direction dictionary is more directed to Swedes learning English, as they are a Swedish publishing house?) At the least, once you get further along, I recommend the Swedish Student Dictionary (Svenska Ordbok - Student Utgava) ('Student edition') Best of luck with your studies! (Edited to correct typo) Edited by strossel on 30 October 2007 at 12:30am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| CaoMei513 Senior Member United States Joined 6788 days ago 110 posts - 113 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, Korean | Message 3 of 10 29 October 2007 at 5:47am | IP Logged |
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A pretty good online S-E E-S dictionary can be found here:
http://www-lexikon.nada.kth.se/skolverket/swe-eng.shtml Dont forget to go to www.sr.se for Swedish radio! Even if you dont understand a word, always have it playing!! Also, good luck with your studies! I tried Swedish many years ago, but only really learned how to read. I hope to go back and improve it after Mandarin. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6852 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 4 of 10 29 October 2007 at 11:21am | IP Logged |
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The name of the publisher is "Norstedts", not "Nordstedts" (in case anybody didn't manage to find it in a book store).
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| Darobat Diglot Senior Member Joined 7131 days ago 754 posts - 770 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Latin | Message 5 of 10 03 November 2007 at 6:03pm | IP Logged |
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Hah, Swedish is fun. Far easier than that beast of a language called Russian.
I think I may have translated my first song title! It's a song called "Tiden som komma skall" by the Swedish group Månegarm. Does that perchance mean "The time that will come"? If so, that is awesome. Less than a week and I can already understand small bits like that. EDIT: I just noticed another song title I understand. By the same group, "Nio dagar, nio nätter" is "Nine days, nine nights", no? This is nice and motivating! Edited by Darobat on 03 November 2007 at 6:42pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6852 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 6 of 10 04 November 2007 at 3:24am | IP Logged |
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You're right, Darobat. :) The normal word order for the first title is "Tiden som skall komma" (same as in English) but sometimes the verbs switch places. In fact, Google has 113 000 hits for "som komma skall" and only 38 500 hits for "som skall komma" (the otherwise 'normal' order!).
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| ChristopherB Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 6259 days ago 851 posts - 1074 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*, German, French | Message 7 of 10 29 November 2007 at 10:58pm | IP Logged |
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Has anyone here actually tried "Le Suédois sans peine"? I'm aware some courses are generally considered better than others, and I'm not altogether sure whether this is one of the "inferior" newer ones.
I'm referring to this one here 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| maxb Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 7126 days ago 536 posts - 589 votes 7 sounds Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Mandarin | Message 8 of 10 30 November 2007 at 8:21am | IP Logged |
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A pretty good online dictionary can be found in my post on this thread. This dictionary is pretty good and has audio for all the words. All the audio is computer generated (probably by realtime pasting together of audio clips done by a native speaker), so some words may be pronounced incorrectly.
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