zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6374 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 17 of 35 12 June 2009 at 4:50am | IP Logged |
There is no such thing as too old. I don't know who gave you the impression there was.
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snovymgodom Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5727 days ago 136 posts - 149 votes Speaks: English*, Russian
| Message 18 of 35 12 June 2009 at 5:38am | IP Logged |
If you feel very strongly about learning Vietnamese and you personally like the language, the learning process will be much easier for you, regardless of your age. And 19 is a perfectly reasonable time to begin learning a language.
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GuardianJY Groupie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5687 days ago 74 posts - 72 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Italian, Swedish, French
| Message 19 of 35 12 June 2009 at 6:02am | IP Logged |
Recht wrote:
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
ok, I'm sorry. i didn't want to start a flame war, but I thought Humbert was nasty to
Wizzel, but I didn't know that he was be sarcastic.
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I'll explain how the joke works, because these types of jokes occur very frequently in
colloquial English conversations, so it's useful to know!
Someone will ask a question, to which question the answer seems obvious. The obvious
answer would be "no, 19 is not to old." but instead the poster answered with the answer
that was clearly not true (no, give up now. too old, etc). In doing so he was
sarcastically insinuating that of COURSE 19 is not too old.
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However, it is usually said vocally with a different intonation. Sarcasm over the internet is tenuous at best.
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lecorbeau Diglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 6022 days ago 113 posts - 149 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Turkish
| Message 20 of 35 12 June 2009 at 7:17am | IP Logged |
Are we really giving a class on sarcasm here? Haha...
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Tyr Senior Member Sweden Joined 5784 days ago 316 posts - 384 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Swedish
| Message 21 of 35 12 June 2009 at 10:28am | IP Logged |
I'm not so sure that it is easier when young even.
I'm a lot better at studying and making myself learn these days than when I was a teenager
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Katie Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 6720 days ago 495 posts - 599 votes Speaks: English*, Hungarian Studies: French, German
| Message 22 of 35 12 June 2009 at 12:32pm | IP Logged |
I also think at an older age, you have made a conscious decision to learn a language - it's not just a necessity... surely that gives us something 'special' to work with!
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Tupiniquim Senior Member Brazil Joined 6085 days ago 184 posts - 217 votes Speaks: Portuguese* Studies: English, Russian
| Message 23 of 35 12 June 2009 at 3:33pm | IP Logged |
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Edited by Tupiniquim on 31 July 2009 at 11:40pm
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Jar-ptitsa Triglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5900 days ago 980 posts - 1006 votes Speaks: French*, Dutch, German
| Message 24 of 35 12 June 2009 at 6:20pm | IP Logged |
Recht wrote:
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
ok, I'm sorry. i didn't want to start a flame war, but I thought Humbert was nasty to
Wizzel, but I didn't know that he was be sarcastic.
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I'll explain how the joke works, because these types of jokes occur very frequently in
colloquial English conversations, so it's useful to know!
Someone will ask a question, to which question the answer seems obvious. The obvious
answer would be "no, 19 is not to old." but instead the poster answered with the answer
that was clearly not true (no, give up now. too old, etc). In doing so he was
sarcastically insinuating that of COURSE 19 is not too old.
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Thank you very much Recht and the others for the explanations about sarcasm. I know that sarcasm is when a person tell the other the opposite of what he/she thinks and that it's for make a joke. sometimes I can understand this and notice that it's the opposite but not always and I prefer the people don't be sarcastic. I like very much funny jokes but not sarcasm.
I thought that Humbert was nasty to Wizzel: he told him that he better give up because he can't learn. It's mean telling a person such a thing that he /she isn't capable therefore I wanted to say that he's absolutely wrong. Now I understand that it was sarcasm and Humbert meaned that wizzel can learn. Humbert, I'm sorry for misinterpret you.
About the age, people of all ages can learn languages, but with study, and the result will be not like the native speakers. the little children learn a language without study and will be native speakers: the feel of a native language is different as well, you haven't to think for construct the sentences or understand, and the pronunciation is natural. This ability is only during some years, until about 8 years I think. The result is always better of the languages which you learned when you are a little child, in my opinion. But, it's possible learn very well more languages when you're old but this will be NOT native. I don't say if this is important or not, it's personal and individual. It's for all people the same, this is good. & nbsp;
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