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sunny
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20 June 2009 at 6:50pm | IP Logged 
I am writing a Rogerian essay on Bilingual education for uni. And I am needing one small bit of information.

On this page:
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/e/languages/english.htm l

This is written:
"...two years of moderate study should be sufficient for all but the most lazy people, and you can definitely learn it in 6 months. As to the number of hours, I think that 250 hours is a safe estimation. "

Do you have a source for this information about time needed to attain fluency in English? or is it from personal experience?

Thank you,
Sunny
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Paskwc
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20 June 2009 at 7:25pm | IP Logged 
Hi,

I'm not sure about whether there is a citation for that figure, but I suppose you can cite the US Government's National Virtual Translation Center. I've put a link for it below:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080204023830/http://www.nvtc.go v/lotw/months/november/learningExpectations.html

If you go to Language Difficulty you will find time approximations.
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sunny
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20 June 2009 at 8:35pm | IP Logged 
Thank you VERY much!




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reineke
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20 June 2009 at 9:12pm | IP Logged 
The links do not work (gov, not go v formatting issue). However you should keep in mind that most online language difficulty tables including this one concern native speakers of English aiming to learn other languages.
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sunny
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20 June 2009 at 10:06pm | IP Logged 
well it does group the languages according to the closeness to English. so it can serve my purpose.


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Britomartis
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21 June 2009 at 4:42am | IP Logged 
Not on closeness to English, but it is based on the premise that the learner's native language is English if I remember correctly. You could probably find some other source that states how close a language is to English, then compare the two.

Edit: Agh! I misread your question, sorry.
The hours needed would of course depend on the native language of the learner.
I wonder if the chart could be flipped though (i.e. it takes as long for a Chinese speaker to learn English as it does for an English speaker to learn Chinese). It'd be interesting if it were true.

Edited by Britomartis on 21 June 2009 at 4:48am



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