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Marc Frisch
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 Message 1 of 12
20 June 2009 at 10:49pm | IP Logged 
Today, I read a lot about "Contrepèteries" (spoonerisms), a form of word-play in which a permutation of sounds yields a new (and usually vulgar) meaning. It's a rather French discipline, although there exist some examples in other languages, e.g. dear old queen The tradition has it that the solution of such a word-play should never be explicitly given. In French there are thousands of contrepèteries and there's a well-known section in "Le canard enchaîné", in which new contrepèteries are published every week. One of my favorites is "Il est arrivé à pied par la Chine".

Reading about this subject I realized how uncommon this type of word-play is in other languages I know. The Italian wikipedia writes that this kind of pun is much easier in French than Italian, so I was wondering:

Are certain languages better suited for (certain types of) word-play? Do you know traditions of language-based humor/word-play proper to certain languages? In general, in which languages is word-play most common?
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20 June 2009 at 11:12pm | IP Logged 
Kentucky fried chicken.

Are there more rhyme pairs in French than in Italian?
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20 June 2009 at 11:24pm | IP Logged 
There's a drinking game in English where you have to say "fuzzy duck" and "ducky fuzz". If you spoonerise them, you have to drink.
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Marc Frisch
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20 June 2009 at 11:31pm | IP Logged 
Bao wrote:
Kentucky fried chicken.

Are there more rhyme pairs in French than in Italian?


I've got a book by Joel Martin, "La bible du contrepet", which contains 20000 of them! Of course, it's impossible to know how many are theoretically possible in a given language, but I'm not aware of a language with as rich a tradition in inventing spoonerisms as French. Here's a short excerpt from the cited work, a fictional encyclopedia entry for a well-known tennis player:

Joel Martin wrote:
Agassi, André - Champion qui tape bien au tennis. Beaucoup de ses adversaires ont vu son tennis et ont pesté. Sa compagne Steffi Graf, qui a fait progresser son tennis, soupire en voyant son grand gambader : "Ah ! le prof Agassi !" Il lui fait travailler les bases de son lob en lui criant : "Ah ! vite, la balle !" et quand il se fait mal au tennis elle le panse. Ce champion agaçant l'a véhiculée. Agassi, il a beaucoup joué !


This short text contains no less than 10 contrepèteries and the result is a surprisingly coherent but terribly indecent story.
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21 June 2009 at 1:49pm | IP Logged 
Sadly, this thread has shown me that my French still has a long way to go as I can't tell which words are supposed to 'spoonerised'. And I hate to be left out of a joke
:-(
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21 June 2009 at 1:53pm | IP Logged 
tennis for example :)
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Marc Frisch
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21 June 2009 at 5:40pm | IP Logged 
turaisiawase wrote:
The best is Ah ! bite, l'avale !


It's better the other way round...


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