cranberry Newbie United States Joined 5653 days ago 9 posts - 9 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian, Japanese
| Message 1 of 15 01 July 2009 at 2:26am | IP Logged |
...in your native tongue?
For me, it was the voiceless dental fricative (the "th" sound in words like "thing" and "thought"). For awhile I didn't learn how to properly produce until I was 5 or 6 when one of my elementary teachers had to teach the class how to do so.
She told us to pretend like we were "hissing geese," which actually worked quite well, since we were all able to say it shortly thereafter.
I still have trouble with words like "parenthesis," though, since I haven't quite yet mastered switching from the voiceless dental fricative to the voiceless alveolar fricative (the "s" sound) of the last syllable.
I also had trouble mixing up my r's and l's, and I still sometimes accidentally do so with words like "energy" and "parallel" (usually only with the r's or l's inside of words, though).
Anyway, how about you? I understand there are some non-native English speakers here, and I would like to see what they have to say as well.
Edited by cranberry on 01 July 2009 at 2:27am
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Amyl Newbie United States Joined 5640 days ago 12 posts - 13 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Spanish
| Message 2 of 15 01 July 2009 at 3:08am | IP Logged |
I'm the same way with th and s. And "girls" sometimes sounds a little like "gillth" haha.
I know my dad had problems with r, and I had a friend who also had problems with it. But they didn't mix it with l; instead they would say "aw" instead of "r."
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snovymgodom Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5727 days ago 136 posts - 149 votes Speaks: English*, Russian
| Message 3 of 15 01 July 2009 at 3:16am | IP Logged |
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I also had trouble mixing up my r's and l's, and I still sometimes accidentally do so with words like "energy" and "parallel" (usually only with the r's or l's inside of words, though). |
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When I was very young I had trouble pronouncing the word "girl". I kept saying "gir". I knew it sounded wrong, but I couldn't make myself pronounce the final -rl, it was too tricky at the time.
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goosefrabbas Triglot Pro Member United States Joined 6370 days ago 393 posts - 475 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: German, Italian Personal Language Map
| Message 4 of 15 01 July 2009 at 3:18am | IP Logged |
snovymgodom wrote:
When I was very young I had trouble pronouncing the word "girl". I kept saying "gir". I knew it sounded wrong, but I couldn't make myself pronounce the final -rl, it was too tricky at the time. |
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Hm, come to think of it, I do that now. It doesn't sound like gir, there's another sound at the end, but it doesn't sound exactly like an L. Maybe it's just the southern drawl!
Edited by goosefrabbas on 01 July 2009 at 3:18am
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fairyfountain Senior Member Zimbabwe Joined 6130 days ago 254 posts - 248 votes 5 sounds
| Message 5 of 15 01 July 2009 at 4:07am | IP Logged |
The French R. If I'm teaching an American friend how to pronounce French, I have to overpronounce the R intentionally. I tend to swallow it - it may be a regionalism, and speaking English a lot made me do it more often, for some reason. I tend to say "avoih" instead of "avoir", for example, but most people don't call me out on it. I guess it can happen in quick speech, too.
By the way, partly swallowing R's in French is nothing but a regionalism - people who live in the French isles do it more often, but I believe it is quite common.
Edited by fairyfountain on 01 July 2009 at 4:23am
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reineke Senior Member United States https://learnalangua Joined 6449 days ago 851 posts - 1008 votes Studies: German
| Message 6 of 15 01 July 2009 at 4:20am | IP Logged |
prrrffftttt...
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The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5651 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean
| Message 7 of 15 01 July 2009 at 4:01pm | IP Logged |
"sts" in English. Even to do this day, it's the hardest sound for me to make.
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Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5671 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
| Message 8 of 15 01 July 2009 at 4:27pm | IP Logged |
For me, in English, the hardest sound to make is "no". It is also the hardest to hear.
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