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| lady_skywalker Triglot Senior Member Netherlands aspiringpolyglotblog Joined 6739 days ago 909 posts - 942 votes  Speaks: Spanish, English*, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, French, Dutch, Italian | Message 9 of 22 01 June 2007 at 3:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
I understand your pain! I am still having trouble figuring out how to use 'ne' (and 'ci') properly. I understand how they work in a sentence when reading something in Italian but I'm clueless when it comes to creating my own sentences (a problem compounded by the fact I keep confusing Spanish and Italian). Anyway, good luck with your quest to conquer Italian. In bocca al lupo! :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6288 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 10 of 22 01 June 2007 at 10:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
I have some trouble with them as well; it's only since I started shadowing Assimil and trying to pay a lot of attention to the sentences that I find there and that I read which aren't like anything that I'd say (ie, the ones that seem right, but not 'natural'/internalized) that I've started using them. The trickiness of 'ci' is compounded by the fact it has quite a lot of uses in Italian. As lady skywalker said, 'in bocca al lupo'! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kleberson Diglot Senior Member Great Britain Joined 6267 days ago 166 posts - 168 votes Speaks: English*, Portuguese Studies: Italian, Russian, Arabic (Written), Mandarin | Message 11 of 22 02 June 2007 at 7:47am | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm getting the hang of them now, but they still cause problems, but with more practice I should get there.
Good luck to you also! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kleberson Diglot Senior Member Great Britain Joined 6267 days ago 166 posts - 168 votes Speaks: English*, Portuguese Studies: Italian, Russian, Arabic (Written), Mandarin | Message 12 of 22 10 June 2007 at 8:12am | IP Logged | |||||
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I have been using the grammar book, and vocabulary book previously mentioned with slow, but some success, it's the boredom that's making it a long affair.
I have ordered the "Assimil Italian" course, with the hope that I will be able to speak with natives after finishing it, I have done some reading on this forum about the course, and there seems to be mixed reviews, but I'm looking forward to giving it a try. Soon, maybe in a few months time, I want to write in this log in Italian only. I'm not yet 100% confident in my ability to do so yet, but I've only been studying the language for about 2 months. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kleberson Diglot Senior Member Great Britain Joined 6267 days ago 166 posts - 168 votes Speaks: English*, Portuguese Studies: Italian, Russian, Arabic (Written), Mandarin | Message 13 of 22 17 June 2007 at 8:58am | IP Logged | |||||
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Well, apart from nearly giving up Italian in order to start Spanish, I have had a good week of learning. I recently bought two books, "Italian verb drills" to consolidate on my verb conjugating ability, and "Italian pronouns and prepositions" to untangle this tricky part of grammar. I have to say that I really like these two books, and they are helping my Italian studies really well.
I also started Assimil Italian, which for the first 10 lessons I didn't like, but I seem to be getting along with it ok now. The translation issues people have raised here on this forum regarding Assimil has some validity. They are not at all literal, which for me isn't so good because I'm learning the structure of sentences through the use of literal translation, which Assimil doesn't provide. However, to conquer this problem, all you need to do is make some literal translations yourself, problem solved. You'll also need a grammar book, because Assimil barley explain grammar, this should also certainly be a follow up course to a course similar to Michel Thomas. All in all, studies seem to be on track. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kleberson Diglot Senior Member Great Britain Joined 6267 days ago 166 posts - 168 votes Speaks: English*, Portuguese Studies: Italian, Russian, Arabic (Written), Mandarin | Message 14 of 22 27 June 2007 at 12:13pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I recently started this course "Corso d'Italiano" by linguaphone. I'm not sure what I'm going to get out of it, because it was released in 1971, but still worth a try.
I have been very sloppy with my studies lately; I've barley done anything for over two weeks. Learning vocabulary and word order has been/is a very tedious part of learning for me, I actually dread looking up new phrases in my vocabulary book, because I know I'm going to find something which will take me hours to understand. But still, I must carry on... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kleberson Diglot Senior Member Great Britain Joined 6267 days ago 166 posts - 168 votes Speaks: English*, Portuguese Studies: Italian, Russian, Arabic (Written), Mandarin | Message 15 of 22 04 July 2007 at 3:04pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I have upped my efforts in Italian immensely since last posting, and feel the need for a few days break already, but its how I earn best it seems.
I have also managed to find an Italian TV channel on sky, and its no extra cost, its channel 509 if anyone is interested, and from the UK. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| LilleOSC Senior Member United States lille.theoffside.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6540 days ago 545 posts - 546 votes 4 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: French, Arabic (Written) | Message 16 of 22 05 July 2007 at 12:22am | IP Logged | |||||
How have your experiences with linguaphone been?I heard it was a good course. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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