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 newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6228 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes  Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 9 of 35 21 June 2007 at 3:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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Sounds like you are making great progress with Mandarin. Are you feeling better from your accident?
I am studying Mandarin on the side --- just trying to learn to recognize the different tones. I listen to FSI and then practice with http://www.pinyinpractice.com/tones.htm and http://www.shufawest.us/language/tonedrill.html. I don't want to practice pronunciation much until I have access to a native speaker. Given your success with a tutor, I think I will try to find one when I am more serious about Mandarin. Edited by newyorkeric on 21 June 2007 at 4:00pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6399 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 10 of 35 21 June 2007 at 9:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hi newyorkeric. Yes, I'm fully recovered, thanks. I'm riding my bike again too.
Hey, thanks a lot for posting the pinyinpractice link. That's what I used, but when I went to look for it recently it disappeared. I can edit it into my post now. I really like using tutors myself. Good luck with that. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6228 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 11 of 35 22 June 2007 at 6:06pm | IP Logged | ||
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The mandarin chinese phonetics site is great for chorusing. I have my media player set on repeat, tag the tone I want, and chorus. Biofeedback enables my voice to match the recording exactly, after only a few repeats. This has to be a good thing, although it's hard on my throat.
leosmith, what do you mean by biofeedback? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6399 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 12 of 35 25 June 2007 at 10:13am | IP Logged | ||
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Biofeedback in this case is comparing my speach to the recording in real-time in order to raise my awareness of the differences so I can make minor adjustments, eventually resulting in near perfect repetitions.
The wikipedia article seems to focus on medical aspects, but I've been using it in endurance sports for years. Anyway, I find it really cool to be able to use biofeedback in language learning, so it's a buzzword I like to use. Just saying "chorusing" is probably enough though. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| furyou_gaijin Senior Member Japan Joined 6235 days ago 540 posts - 631 votes Speaks: Latin* | Message 13 of 35 02 July 2007 at 11:33am | IP Logged | ||
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Any reason why you're not using Chinese Pod? In my experience, that is the best way to get conversational, fast...
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| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6399 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 14 of 35 02 July 2007 at 1:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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. Edited by leosmith on 29 September 2008 at 12:28am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6758 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 15 of 35 02 July 2007 at 1:39pm | IP Logged | ||
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It was a while since I listened to Chinesepod. I started with the Newbie level even if some lessons were very basic.
Try a few from the level you think you're at. If they are to difficult, go down a level. If they are too easy, go up a level. Lessons from all levels can be used in a myriad of ways: shadowing, pure listening comprehension... In the Assimil Chinese thread Keith says he listens to his lessons over and over again. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| furyou_gaijin Senior Member Japan Joined 6235 days ago 540 posts - 631 votes Speaks: Latin* | Message 16 of 35 03 July 2007 at 3:34pm | IP Logged | ||
I believe it's now possible to download the stripped dialogues - so half of that work is done for you already. I wouldn't bother with the English- language banter in the first two levels if you have attained some knowledge of Chinese already. It's very informative and also great fun but the amount it contributes to the actual language acquisition is disproportionate to the time spent listening to it. The dialogues, however, are truly made of gold and cover a fast variety of subjects. The way I worked with them was to keep listening until I knew them 'by heart': not in the litterate sence but rather in the sense of being able to reproduce a whole sentence from a dialogue when suitably prompted. I listened to ALL Newbies first, then ALL Elementaries, then ALL Intermediates. I carry them around on my iPod and delete those with which I already feel comfortable. Also, whenever possible, I try to listen with transcripts in hand. Unfortunately, I don't find their premium features useful at all. It is just one of the many ways to use this great resource, though... Ganbatte neeee!!! (^_^) Edited by furyou_gaijin on 03 July 2007 at 3:34pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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