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| sajro Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6002 days ago 129 posts - 131 votes  1 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 1 of 6 09 October 2008 at 7:47pm | IP Logged |
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I've decided to start learning BCS (or whatever you like to call it), mainly focusing on the Bosnian variation. I am going to get some materials, but this is unfamiliar water for me. I've not found many resources for these. There's no '2-tonne gorilla' like the Princeton Course for Russian or LSLC for Spanish, at least to my knowledge.
So, for those who have tread in these waters before I, I ask that they give a few recommendations if anything really helped them. One thing I've been considering is "Teach Yourself Croatian", about which I've seen good things. However, I'm worried that it isn't as good as I've heard. I also dislike that many facets of the TY series are so 'touristy.' There are too many things about your passport, your plane, going to the landmarks, etc. That's what (for me) spoils this otherwise great series. So, please share your experiences, opinions, and questions of my sanity (which aren't related to this, just if you know me in any way, you know I'm crazy). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| !LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6827 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish | Message 2 of 6 10 October 2008 at 8:21am | IP Logged |
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I ahve the exact same goal.
I would recommend you get this textbook with this grammar and maybe if you have the money these CDs and you will be perfectly good to go! You can also get FSI Serbo-Croatian in the forum of www.fsi-language-courses.com Regards, Ilhan 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| sajro Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6002 days ago 129 posts - 131 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 3 of 6 10 October 2008 at 11:55am | IP Logged |
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Hvala, !LH@N.
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| !LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6827 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish | Message 4 of 6 10 October 2008 at 12:39pm | IP Logged |
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No Problem. I think that could be a great opportunity for both of us to help each other :)
Regards, Ilhan 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Eduard Decaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6031 days ago 166 posts - 170 votes 2 sounds Speaks: Dutch*, NorwegianC1, Swedish, Danish, English, German, ItalianB1, Spanish, Serbo-Croatian, French Studies: Portuguese | Message 5 of 6 04 November 2008 at 11:44am | IP Logged |
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At the BCS course at the University of Oslo, we use TY Croatian as the introduction to the language. We are working our way through this book from the end of August to the end of November with 6 academic hours of lessons and class practice per week, which is fairly quick but just ok.
The book is indeed a bit touristy, but I've come across worse. Grammar is sufficiently explained on par with the level of the book. From what I have seen, the books Ilhan is talking about could be a good starting point if you want to learn the Bosnian variant of BCS. On the other hand, as I am experiencing from our class at university, there is more overlap between the variations of the language than may be suggested by some books. The TY Croatian is indeed a book in Croatian, but it does not to a great extent use words that are very Croatian. Instead of the historic Croatian word for aeroplane (zrakoplov) it just uses 'avion', like in the rest of the former YU. And on the other side, Turkish and Arab words in Bosnian are mainly found in colloquial speechs only and hardly in written text. In addition, Bosnian official grammar is the most deregulated of the BCS-languages, which leaves most of your options open. It however uses the 'jekavian' style, which it has in common with Croatia and Montenegro, and not with Serbia. Bottom line: you can learn any of the variants and slightly adapt to another variant if wished for lateron. The grammar (ways of conjugating verbs and nouns) is the same in all versions. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| samosamnina Diglot Newbie United States sadaznam.deviantart.Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5835 days ago 11 posts - 11 votes Speaks: English*, Croatian Studies: Turkish | Message 6 of 6 09 December 2008 at 3:46pm | IP Logged |
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The Ronelle Alexander book is quite good. I've had the pleasure of attending a lecture she gave once at my university, plus my language instructor has known her for a while. The BCS program at my university is currently using that textbook for first year. If you don't mind putting out a bit for it, Morton Benson's SerboCroatian dictionary is quite good.
Also, there's not a ton of online sources (unfortunately), but here's a page my instructor gave some input on -- http://www.seelrc.org/webliography/bcs.ptml If you're interested more in the Bosnian variant, you could just as well begin by focusing more on ijekavian dialect (such as in Croatian), however, without all the specifically Croatian words... (ie, choose the latinized months over the Croatian months, etc). Bosnians usually stick to more Croatian as opposed to Serbian style of verbal clauses, and it's ijekavian (even in Republika Srpska, ironically enough) - though just to be on top of things, it'd only be a good thing if you also learned Cyrillic, seeing as how both alphabets are in use in Bosnia. As per Turkishisms (well, I'm studying Turkish now, and just checked out a book called 'Turcizmi u srpskohrvatskom jeziku' [Turkishisms in SerboCroatian language), and yeah, while the more conscious usage of Turkish words in language is more colloquial in Bosnia, there are quite a few Turkish influenced words in usage across BCS language spectrum as a whole. Grrr. I'm trying to think of ways to give you some help, but it was kind of easier for me - my instructor would point out which things were more common in Bosnia or not, and I know quite a few Bosnians... I'll do some brainstorming now that my quarter's done, and try to give some more helpful hints. Good luck! :D 1 person has voted this message useful |
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