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Brick wall, plateau or pit?

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J-Learner
Senior Member
Australia
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Studies: Yiddish, English*
Studies: Dutch

 
 Message 1 of 11
10 November 2008 at 7:46am | IP Logged 
I am learning Hebrew as some of of you may have noticed. The study is very enjoyable and I intend to continue until fluency.

My problem is that at the moment I feel like I am going nowhere with it. What I have review I have no problems with but new material seems to go in one ear and out the other. Basically I do not feel like I am getting any better with the language right now.

Anyone know this feeling and possibly know what they did to solve it?

Thanks for any comments.

Shalom,
Yehoshua.
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Volte
Tetraglot
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Switzerland
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Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian
Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese

 
 Message 2 of 11
10 November 2008 at 7:50am | IP Logged 
It happens - regardless of language, and almost regardless of study method.

Possible things to do:
- persist in your current method
- try something else: more focus on grammar, more listening to the radio, some mix, whatever

I have no idea as to which of the above is better.

Things not to do:
- give up
- stop having daily contact with Hebrew

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J-Learner
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Australia
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Studies: Dutch

 
 Message 3 of 11
10 November 2008 at 8:09am | IP Logged 
I have nothing with which to learn grammar nor am I very good at learning by it in any case.

I think it is important to have a range of methods and have done this during the 5 months.

My methods right now:
Learn Hebrew Pod - using the audio lessons but not the written material which I will return to when reviewing after having gone through the first 20 (A, B and C) lessons.

Music or radio for about an hour and sometimes for 3 hours a day. Plenty on input.

Memorization of verbs in all tenses.

This is a new method but I think it will pay off. At this early stage I only know verbs in present and some in some of the past tense which makes it difficult to express myself. It is crazy. No other language have I seen take so long to teach different tenses. That goes for every Hebrew course I have come across. I have taken it into my own hands while I struggle to get to the point where they teach it.

There are several other courses and methods that I could use but simply don't have the time. My routine is severaly lacking but that is typical of me. :p

Thanks for the hints Volte :)

Shalom,
Yehoshua.
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Volte
Tetraglot
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Switzerland
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Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese

 
 Message 4 of 11
10 November 2008 at 8:55am | IP Logged 
Good luck, and you're welcome.

Various Hebrew grammar sources:
Wikipedia's page on Hebrew verb conjugation.

Unilang chips in with a page on common, irregular Hebrew verbs.

If you're looking to memorize verbs in various tenses, those might be of some help.

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J-Learner
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Australia
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 Message 5 of 11
10 November 2008 at 9:04am | IP Logged 
Thanks very much but I already have a Barrons book with 501 verbs and have just memorized my first verb in all tenses.

I feel that I never know enough...
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Bob Greaves
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United Kingdom
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Studies: Spanish, Japanese

 
 Message 6 of 11
10 November 2008 at 1:33pm | IP Logged 
I think that it is a very common problem. I used to study Japanese to the level where I would have been considered an advanced speaker. I could get round Japan on my own and on a good day with a helpful listener hold a conversation for up to 1 hour. However it seemed to get no further and I was stuck on a plateau. I became a bit bored and I decided to stop.
I have since come to the conclusion that I needed more input. I had decided not to learn to read/write. Thus my input was limited to what others spoke to me about.
I am now studying Spanish and concentrating on getting massive amounts of input (via L-R). I cannot tell yet what the effect will be.
I also feel that sometimes the brain takes time to absorb all the stuff that is thrown at it, and so there is an incubation period which seems to lack progress but after a while results will start to show provided you don't give up.
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J-Learner
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Australia
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 Message 7 of 11
10 November 2008 at 3:15pm | IP Logged 
I have no lack of input but a lack of output! Thanks for commenting.

Who knows hey Bob greaves?

Shalom,
Yehoshua.
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Yinon
Diglot
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Israel
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Speaks: English, Modern Hebrew*
Studies: German

 
 Message 8 of 11
15 November 2008 at 2:41pm | IP Logged 
Hi! I wish I could help you, but you didn't mention what's your status at Hebrew
(beginner, intermediate). Normally I would recommend getting the Pimsleur course. If
you're interested I'm even willing to correspond with you in Hebrew or in any way you
prefer.
Greeting,
Yinon.


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