Kizzer Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5860 days ago 4 posts - 4 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese, Japanese
| Message 1 of 8 14 November 2008 at 4:27am | IP Logged |
I have a question about pronunciation of certain verbs, im using as many sources as i can whilst learning to get as wide a variety of input for my learning as possible...but i have come up against somethings which are conflicting.
One source is pronouncing certain verbs with a 'dey' and others with an 'eee'.
For example lets take reading, the first source will say 'yom-dey mas' and the second ill say 'yom-eee mas'.
Please excuse the crude phonetical writing, 'dey' sounds like they and 'eee' is like see.
Could any Japanese speakers please advise me on this with their opinions, i hope this description was clear enough please let me know if some things require clarification.
(Could it possibly just be to do with tense? I hope its that simple and i can continue with both sources.)
Edited by Kizzer on 14 November 2008 at 4:29am
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Gon-no-suke Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6440 days ago 156 posts - 191 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Japanese, EnglishC2 Studies: Korean, Malay, Swahili
| Message 2 of 8 14 November 2008 at 5:02am | IP Logged |
My guess:
'yom-eee mas' (yomimasu): read
'yom-dey mas' (yonde imasu): am reading
'yom-ay mas' (yomemasu): can read
The basic form ot the worb verb is yomu
Edited by Gon-no-suke on 14 November 2008 at 7:35am
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Kizzer Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5860 days ago 4 posts - 4 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese, Japanese
| Message 3 of 8 14 November 2008 at 5:27am | IP Logged |
Thank you for the help Gon-no-suke!
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Gon-no-suke Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6440 days ago 156 posts - 191 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Japanese, EnglishC2 Studies: Korean, Malay, Swahili
| Message 4 of 8 14 November 2008 at 5:44am | IP Logged |
I afraid I didn't read you explanation very carefully. If 'eee' sounds like see, then it should be:
'yom-eee mas' (yomimasu): read
I have no idea how to represent yomemasu in "phonics", maybe 'yo-may-mas'?
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Kizzer Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5860 days ago 4 posts - 4 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese, Japanese
| Message 5 of 8 14 November 2008 at 7:07am | IP Logged |
I had originally learnt it as 'Yom-eee mas' like youre saying but now something else is saying it as 'yon-day mas'.
What i took your respone to mean is that it was ok and just in a different tense. Is that correct?
Edited by Kizzer on 14 November 2008 at 7:08am
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Gon-no-suke Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6440 days ago 156 posts - 191 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Japanese, EnglishC2 Studies: Korean, Malay, Swahili
| Message 6 of 8 14 November 2008 at 7:38am | IP Logged |
Hi Kizzer, sorry for beeing unclear. I edited my first answer to show the three tenses/aspects that I was talking about.
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Kizzer Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5860 days ago 4 posts - 4 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese, Japanese
| Message 7 of 8 14 November 2008 at 9:34am | IP Logged |
You're a hero, thank you for taking some of your time to help me. It's greatly appreciated.
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Yukamina Senior Member Canada Joined 6270 days ago 281 posts - 332 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean, French
| Message 8 of 8 14 November 2008 at 11:06am | IP Logged |
That 'dey' in 'yomde imasu' or 'yomemasu' isn't really pronounced like that. It's an 'eh' sound like in the English word 'let'.
Does your source not include a transcript or teach pronunciation rules? Japanese pronunciation is very simple and consistent.
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