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| Satoshi Diglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5829 days ago 215 posts - 224 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, English Studies: German, Japanese | Message 25 of 56 21 April 2009 at 4:03am | IP Logged | |||||
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As far as I know, ladyboys is a word for transexuals.
Transexuals are not necessarily homosexual. Edited by Satoshi on 21 April 2009 at 4:03am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Ashley_Victrola Senior Member United States Joined 5712 days ago 416 posts - 429 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Romanian | Message 26 of 56 21 April 2009 at 4:39am | IP Logged | |||||
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Um, it doesn't really matter either way. I am sure that threads ruminating on the extent of fetish life in Japan or whether or not "ladyboys" count as homosexuals would be quite interesting. Nonetheless none of this really answers whether a non transexual homosexual would have a problem with acceptance in these countries.
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| icing_death Senior Member United States Joined 5867 days ago 296 posts - 302 votes Speaks: English* | Message 27 of 56 21 April 2009 at 6:32am | IP Logged | |||||
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| joha87 Newbie United States Joined 5752 days ago 14 posts - 21 votes Studies: Korean, English* Studies: German | Message 28 of 56 21 April 2009 at 4:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I remember reading an article somewhere that said that, ironically, homosexual relationships are actually easier to find and practice in Saudi Arabia than in the West, as long as homosexuals don't publicly reveal their homosexuality. Apparently, because of the strict segregation between the sexes, homosexuality is actually very commonly practiced and Arabian culture's trait of closeness between male friends make relationships very easy to initiate. Of course, you should probably check, but if you're go to Saudi Arabia, as long as you act appropriately straight in public, your love life should be fine.
In Japan, you won't really have any problems with being homosexual, even if you were flamboyantly so. I have a gay friend who doesn't have any problems finding partners or being open with his sexuality and he even lives with a host family. The problem is that even though Japanese people don't dislike homosexuals, they also don't take them seriously. Homosexuality as an identity is still a very Western thing and in non-western countries, it's mainly seen as an act. So Japanese don't really understand things like gay marriage, either. Another thing is that Japanese tend to lump homosexuality, transvestism, and transexuality all together. They do have vibrant gay scenes, at least in the cities. In Tokyo, there's even a famous gay district called ni-chome. I can't really vet for Korea, though. Christianity became big in Korea (the South), so there are a lot of conservative Christians in Korea and even for non-Christians, a lot of traditional ideas of Western morality has rubbed off on them. But I'm sure there's a gay scene there. Edited by joha87 on 21 April 2009 at 5:01pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| tricoteuse Pentaglot Senior Member Norway littlang.blogspot.co Joined 6684 days ago 745 posts - 845 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Norwegian, EnglishC1, Russian, French Studies: Ukrainian, Bulgarian | Message 29 of 56 21 April 2009 at 5:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
Uhm, where were your friends from really? The capital of the north, Umeå, is a sort of gay & vegan capital as well. It's actually the most "homo friendly" city of Sweden (source: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article16433.ab). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| chipile Diglot Newbie United Kingdom Joined 6588 days ago 21 posts - 24 votes Speaks: English*, Swedish Studies: French | Message 30 of 56 21 April 2009 at 11:20pm | IP Logged | |||||
I should have clarified that I meant smaller towns in Norrland, or in general. One friend was from outside Skelleftea and mentioned that things were good in Umea and the bigger places up north. Thanks for clearing that up though, as I now realise I wasn't that clear. I should have emphasised that it generally depends on the size of a town. Other friends were from Lulea and Boden. Would it be fair to say that attitudes in Umea would be more relaxed due to the size of the city and the fact that it has a fairly young population? I know that it is not really relevant, but just a thought... It is interesting that Ornskoldsvik (130 km further south) is the "worst gay town" in Sweden, according to the same study. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Maximus Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6755 days ago 417 posts - 427 votes Studies: Spanish, Japanese, Thai | Message 31 of 56 22 April 2009 at 2:11am | IP Logged | |||||
If you are a man who likes sucking ladyboys' penises and letting them ram you in the rearhole then it is my opinion that you are homosexual or bisexual at least (if you like girls too that is). However I also believe that if you end up sleeping with a ladyboy/transsexual how has had a vagina created, then I don't think that it makes you homosexual. The truth is that astonishingly there happens to be some very feminine transsexuals, (especially Newhalfs in Japan) who look way more girly and cute than many genetic women. Having relations with these kind of people surely wouldn't make you gay! For example look at Harisu in Korea! She is way more feminine then some American entertainers! Sorry Ms. Spears! You just seem a bit manly! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| blindsheep Triglot Senior Member Spain Joined 6366 days ago 503 posts - 507 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: German | Message 32 of 56 22 April 2009 at 2:14am | IP Logged | |||||
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While I don't think homosexuality is quite as accepted in Spain, as for example where I'm from in Canada, its still quite acceptable slightly depending on the area... I believe there are 'scenes' in most decently sized cities, but at least at the moment I only know a few people here who are openly gay and I haven't really asked them about it. I guess the only thing is that you might get more name calling here than you would in Canada... calling every negative thing 'gay' back home has gotten to be at least somewhat unacceptable for a lot of people, whereas 'maricón' seems to pop out of the mouths of people who I wouldn't otherwise call particularly ignorant/insulting.
Of course, this all depends on where you go... Sitges, Cataluña... well, there are naked men walking around all over the place picking each other up in the surrounding coastal areas... What other places would you find half drunk middle aged men walking around in the bushes and cacti in nothing more than a thong? If I were gay I'd live in Barcelona... its a great place not even considering that aspect, if a little chaotic at times for me personally. Of course, you'd want to learn Catalan too, but that just adds to the challenge/appeal :-) A city in Andalusia, where I am now it wouldn't be a problem, but you might be a little less catered to and occasionally be more annoyed by peoples' ignorance. Hope that helps, there's also the gay marriage thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Spain which may or may not be a plus depending on your views on marriage. Cheers. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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