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cathrynm
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United States
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Studies: Japanese, Finnish

 
 Message 17 of 43
29 April 2009 at 7:40am | IP Logged 
Just based on what TV is available in Northern California, I'd say the most common are English, Spanish, Mandarin, Korean, Cantonese.

Employment is another question. Honestly, I have no idea. Do people in the USA actually use learned foreign language skills in their work, and how do they do it?   I'm studying Japanese, but this is mostly for my own pleasure -- really there are enough Japanese natives coming here to the USA and I'll never compete with them.   With my work, we've mostly outsourced translation to European companies -- we just pay money and the English comes back translated.

I guess maybe there are some government jobs where they have preference for Spanish-English bilingual people?   I'm not sure.


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TerryRoberts
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 Message 18 of 43
29 April 2009 at 8:09am | IP Logged 
For Madrid Spain, the most useful (foreign) languages to learn are:
1. English
2. French
3. German
4. Italian

After no. 4 spot, the order changes regularly depending on the economic circumstances in the rest of the world - Madrid attracts a lot of foreign tourists, but the majority nationalities change according to the ups and downs of the economy in their own countries. At the moment - and just going by what I see on the street - I'd say that Japanese would still be very useful, followed closely now by East European languages and Chinese.
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portunhol
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 Message 19 of 43
29 April 2009 at 9:15am | IP Logged 
guesto wrote:
You all seem to be listing the languages most widely spoken by immigrants. But are these the "best" languages for someone to learn? You might have more chances to speak it, but it might be utterly useless for employment for example.


That's a good point. I didn't mean for people to restrict their lists to the most common languages of their region necessarily. Certain languages seem to be useful whether there is a big population nearby that speaks the language or not. I do think that it helps though.
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lecorbeau
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 Message 20 of 43
29 April 2009 at 3:57pm | IP Logged 
LittleKey wrote:
Southern California:

1. English
2. Spanish
3. Farsi
4. Russian
5. Japanese



As someone from the greater Los Angeles area, I will wholeheartedly second the first three languages on this list,
but would probably replace Russian with Vietnamese and Japanese with Mandarin or Korean.
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DaraghM
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 Message 21 of 43
29 April 2009 at 5:14pm | IP Logged 
For Dublin, Ireland in 2009, I'd select,

1. Hiberno-English - This is basically English, with an understanding of Irish place name pronuciation, and some idioms. In Dublin, many a visitor has difficulty with Tallaght and Dun Laoghaire.
2. Polish - Huge immigrant community. Polish chleb (bread) is delicious, so it's nice to know how to order it in a specialist store.
3. Irish (Gaeilge) - Though everyone speaks English, some Irish would be appreciated in the Gaeltacht's.
4. Mandarin - A large student population will give you plenty of practice.
5. Telegu - I've encountered more Telegu speakers here, than any other language from the Indian subcontinent.
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JasonBourne
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 Message 22 of 43
09 May 2009 at 1:05am | IP Logged 
guesto wrote:
You all seem to be listing the languages most widely spoken by immigrants. But are these the "best" languages for someone to learn? You might have more chances to speak it, but it might be utterly useless for employment for example.


They kind of go hand in hand, though. If there is a high immigrant population using a certain language, there will be a need for bilingual speakers who can communicate with them, which translates into more employment opportunities, especially as translators or social services jobs.
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maya_star17
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 Message 23 of 43
09 May 2009 at 1:34am | IP Logged 
stephen_g wrote:
The Greater Toronto Area:
English
French
Punjabi
Cantonese
Mandarin
I wouldn't include French (I'm from the GTA too). It's absolutely useless here except for getting a good job, but you can do that without French as well if you have skills/experience/etc.

Also, are you sure about Mandarin? 70% of the Chinese immigrants here speak Canto. I think languages like Hindi and Russian are spoken by more people.
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stephen_g
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 Message 24 of 43
09 May 2009 at 9:06am | IP Logged 
maya_star17 wrote:
stephen_g wrote:
The Greater Toronto Area:
English
French
Punjabi
Cantonese
Mandarin
I wouldn't include French (I'm from the GTA too). It's absolutely useless here except for getting a good job, but you can do that without French as well if you have skills/experience/etc.

Also, are you sure about Mandarin? 70% of the Chinese immigrants here speak Canto. I think languages like Hindi and Russian are spoken by more people.


I think French is important to include simply because it opens up more job opportunities than any other language in the GTA (apart from English, of course!). I've heard many stories of people receiving higher salaries just for being bilingual, even if their skills are rarely put to use. When it comes to foreign languages and employment, I don't think any other language can match French.

Good point about Mandarin. That fifth slot is the most difficult to fill. I think we need to consider not only which immigrant languages are most popular, but which among them represents the highest amount of speakers who are not bilingual. I'd wager that many more Punjabi speakers are not bilingual than Hindi speakers, for example, because most Punjabis here are from a rural, agricultural background. Do you have any proposals? How is the grasp of English amongst Sri Lankan Tamils? I'm not from the east end, so I can't comment. I can't seem to locate census data which gets into specific languages or language groups...


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