cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5840 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 9 of 39 30 April 2009 at 6:55pm | IP Logged |
Danish has less seriously strong accents than Sweden and Norway.
Norwegian is the language that both Danes and Swedes can easily understand without even focussing.
Both Sweden and Norway have large dialect differences between the North and ths South.
Danish and Swedish can occassionally get a bit hairy.
People who are used to hearing the other language say there is no problem, but personally I sometimes struggle to understand spoken Danish. Written is no problem though.
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5849 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 10 of 39 30 April 2009 at 7:25pm | IP Logged |
cordelia0507 wrote:
Danish has less seriously strong accents than Sweden and Norway.
Norwegian is the language that both Danes and Swedes can easily understand without even focussing.
Both Sweden and Norway have large dialect differences between the North and ths South.
Danish and Swedish can occassionally get a bit hairy.
People who are used to hearing the other language say there is no problem, but personally I sometimes struggle to understand spoken Danish. Written is no problem though. |
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These conclusions are also interesting for me to know, because I also intend to learn one Scandinavian language in the future. The decisive aspect for me (I will chose Danish) for me is that Denmark is a neighbouring country of Germany (I will have to spend my lifetime there anyway), so it's always useful to learn some "languages of the neigbours". Otherwise I would vote for Swedish because I think it's easier than Danish.
Fasulye-Babylonia
Edited by Fasulye on 01 May 2009 at 8:44am
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cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5840 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 11 of 39 30 April 2009 at 10:57pm | IP Logged |
@Fasulye: It's nice that you start with the language of a neighbouring country! I think that's a sound principle.
The grammar of the Scandinavian languages is more or less identical and the vocabulary is the same for most words, although the spelling and pronounciation varies.
If Scandinavians decided that they wanted to, we could probably have a language reform and come up with a pan-Scandinavian language. I think that would be really nice. More books would be translated and it would improve the standing of our language.
As it is right now, you hit a brick wall at university level where a lot of the literature simply isn't translated anymore, or published in English even when the author is a Scandinavian. This is the backside of small languages.. :-(
Edited by cordelia0507 on 30 April 2009 at 11:01pm
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Louis Triglot Groupie Italy Joined 5732 days ago 92 posts - 110 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish
| Message 12 of 39 30 April 2009 at 11:08pm | IP Logged |
Don't be so quick to discredit Icelandic! I've been doing just fine with it, despite having never learned a language with cases or heavy inflections, as Iversen said. It's a really charming language with an "antique" aspect to it. While I can't say it's the most useful language, Icelandic is a great starting point for a future in the Scandinavian languages, and even the entire Germanic family!
The lack of resources isn't such a problem. I could PM you what I've been using, if you're curious.
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Tupiniquim Senior Member Brazil Joined 6085 days ago 184 posts - 217 votes Speaks: Portuguese* Studies: English, Russian
| Message 13 of 39 30 April 2009 at 11:35pm | IP Logged |
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Edited by Tupiniquim on 31 July 2009 at 11:04pm
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5849 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 14 of 39 01 May 2009 at 8:47am | IP Logged |
cordelia0507 wrote:
@Fasulye: It's nice that you start with the language of a neighbouring country! I think that's a sound principle.
As it is right now, you hit a brick wall at university level where a lot of the literature simply isn't translated anymore, or published in English even when the author is a Scandinavian. This is the backside of small languages.. :-( |
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That's not a good development that scientific publications in the Scandinavian languages are vanishing. Every language should also function on that level.
Fasulye-Babylonia
Edited by Fasulye on 01 May 2009 at 8:47am
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Alkeides Senior Member Bhutan Joined 6150 days ago 636 posts - 644 votes
| Message 15 of 39 01 May 2009 at 9:17am | IP Logged |
Are there any recent Latin academic publications in Scandinavia?
Latin Dissertations
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cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5840 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 16 of 39 01 May 2009 at 10:07am | IP Logged |
I think it might always have been this way with academic publications in Scandinavia, but I'm not completely sure.
German used to be the No 1 foreign language that Scandinavians spoke during the first half of the 20th century. All my grandparents speak good or fluent German (but with very strong accents!). There are some German books in their bookcases and I think it was a requirement for some professions that they could speak German.
But because of media and Hollywood, English has come in MUCH heavier than anything previously. The importance of English is drilled into everybody and there is no escaping English even if you wanted to.
I read an article about Kazakhstan: It took less than 60 years to turn the whole country around linguistically - people there speak better Russian than Kazakh, and those in the city often don't speak Kazakh at all. They say they prefer Russian.
I wonder if that's an example of what's to come... :-(
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