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Marlowe
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 Message 1 of 7
20 May 2009 at 2:07pm | IP Logged 
To what extent have you learned the other Scandinavian languages? I'm guessing we all want to learn more "exotic" languages as well, but it would really be a shame to not understand the people in your own backyard with a native-like ease.

Now, I do of course understand both Swedish and Danish, but not as smoothly as I could/should. Specifically I have problems with spoken Danish and written Swedish (which I guess is typical for a Norwegian). To remedy this I'm planning to listen to a bit of Danish radio and read a Swedish text every day. Since the languages are so similar, and since my comprehension is already pretty good, I'm expecting near-native understanding to be attainable quite quickly.

At this point I don't have any strong desire to actually be able to speak/write in Danish and Swedish, but I would love to hear from those of you who have that goal as well. Perhaps it will come later.
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cordelia0507
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 Message 2 of 7
20 May 2009 at 2:52pm | IP Logged 
Yeah, same as you, pretty much.

If I decided to LIVE in one of the other countries I would try to learn the spelling and speech better. As it is, I know them well enough to read something if I have to, and speak with people (although Danish can be tricky sometimes).

I don't think I would ever try to learn Finnish, even if I lived there (sorry!). Too difficult and I think it's possible to get by in Finland quite well on Swedish, depending on where you live and work.

Once I HAD to read a 300p book in Danish - people were complaining loudly in the course and it was a bit tough, but the subject was relatively interesting: issues relating to Greenland and I got through it without any serious problems.

In work I sometimes communicate with other Scandis - if so, I try to throw in more pan-scandinavian words and less specifically Swedish words. This is partly as a courtesy since I am the "supplier" and they are the "customer". Sometimes I write emails in mixed Scandinavian;

I say for example: "Jag trenger att finne ut" instead of "jag måste ta reda på". I only do this if I think that the person might struggle to understand Swedish. Sometimes I have to check a few words when I get the response back, but usually no problems.


Edited by cordelia0507 on 20 May 2009 at 3:15pm

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Lizzern
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 Message 3 of 7
20 May 2009 at 7:26pm | IP Logged 
cordelia0507 wrote:
I say for example: "Jag trenger att finne ut" instead of "jag måste ta reda på". I only do this if I think that the person might struggle to understand Swedish.


Some people might be offended by that kind of behaviour, you know :-) (And by this I don't mean me.)

To answer the overall question, I don't usually have much trouble communicating with people from other Scandinavian friends but if we encounter any obstacles then we'll teach each other. I don't plan on doing any actual study of neither Swedish nor Danish, because I understand both well enough as it is, and have bigger fish to fry. Native-level fluency would be cool though, of course. Just very far from being a priority when I have upwards of 10 other languages that I'd like to someday reach fluency in.

Liz
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pmiller
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 Message 4 of 7
21 May 2009 at 1:06am | IP Logged 
Those of you familiar with Norwegian, Swedish and Danish:

Which language would you say has the most phonetic writing (closest to actual sound of the language) and which the least phonetic?
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Iversen
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 Message 5 of 7
21 May 2009 at 12:57pm | IP Logged 
I Have basically taught myself to write and probably also talk Swedish. But understanding them has never been a problem for me as a Dane. I have only had problems with people who didn´t understand Danish. Or who at least had given up understanding Danish without really trying.
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cordelia0507
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 Message 6 of 7
21 May 2009 at 8:03pm | IP Logged 
Oops is it un-PC to speak mixed Scandinavian or joke about the others speech? :-)
It's a standard feature on Swedish TV, or at least it used to be(?)

The "Danish" chefs
Language exchange to Finland....
Norwegian Fleksnes joke about Danish numbers
Norwegian guy tells a joke about Norwegians, to win an iPod

Just for fun and I am sure there are much worse jokes about Swedes elsewhere.

Edited by cordelia0507 on 21 May 2009 at 9:03pm

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Lizzern
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 Message 7 of 7
21 May 2009 at 11:08pm | IP Logged 
Jokes about other Scandinavian languages - oh it's so on. Everywhere. Hilarity ensues every time, and it's totally PC. That's not what I meant :-) What I mean is, writing a mix to simplify your language on the assumption the other person wouldn't understand rather basic Swedish or whatever, could be taken as insulting. Not to mention that many of us cringe at the mere suggestion of a pan-Scandinavian language. It just looks awful to me, lol.

May I introduce you to Piirka, the Norwegian take on Finns: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSfybUm5OXU


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