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Gray Parrot Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5602 days ago 41 posts - 44 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: Portuguese
| Message 9 of 12 27 August 2009 at 7:27pm | IP Logged |
I lived in Taiwan for 15 years and think it's a great place to learn Mandarin Chinese. If you live in Taipei you will be
able to hear clearly spoken Chinese every day. Taiwanese is mostly spoken in the south, which you should probably
avoid if you really want to practice Mandarin.
Some people do prefer to speak Taiwanese, and some people speak with an accent, but most educated Taiwanese
speak Mandarin clearly. There are just some differences from China.
Remember that if you live in China you will also hear non-standard pronunciations sometimes. Possibly quite a lot
in some areas. Even in China not everyone speaks Mandarin as their first language.
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| karaipyhare Tetraglot Groupie Paraguay Joined 5591 days ago 74 posts - 150 votes Speaks: Portuguese, Spanish*, English, Guarani Studies: German, Italian, French, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 10 of 12 27 August 2009 at 10:40pm | IP Logged |
I've always wondered. Why did Taiwan pick up Mandarin as the official language? Because
the native place of Mandarin is like around Beijing, right? Why did they choose Mandarin
instead of Minnan or another Taiwanese dialect?
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| Z.J.J Senior Member China Joined 5614 days ago 243 posts - 305 votes Speaks: Mandarin*
| Message 11 of 12 28 August 2009 at 5:41am | IP Logged |
Gray Parrot wrote:
Remember that if you live in China you will also hear non-standard pronunciations sometimes. Possibly quite a lot in some areas. Even in China not everyone speaks Mandarin as their first language. |
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That's right, but I'm afraid, what I've highlighted mainly refers to official standard mandarin of TV station, instead of non-standard accents that spoken in marketplaces. Normally, if you compared the level (fluency, pronunciation, usage, refinery) of "Mainland mass media" carefully with that of Taiwan, maybe you could find something different from your previous feelings. Of course, I'm biased, just ignore it if I'm wrong.
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| Z.J.J Senior Member China Joined 5614 days ago 243 posts - 305 votes Speaks: Mandarin*
| Message 12 of 12 28 August 2009 at 7:42am | IP Logged |
The ancestors of people who're living in southern Taiwan mostly immigrated from Hok-kiàn (Chôan-chiu、Chiang-chiu、Ē-mn̂g、etc., they're almost ancient northern Chinese) province & Hak-kâ groups (actually, almost ancient northern Chinese too) of Mainland, during 4 or 5 times of mass migrations (from north to south, for avoiding wars & hunger) in Chinese history, they all speak Bân-lâm-gú (Minnanese) as their native language, and in Taiwan, Bân-lâm-gú was never strongly influenced by great changes of Chinese languages (from Classical to Modern). However, people in northern Taiwan mostly immigrated from other provinces or groups where Mandarin is widely spoken as native language, or sounds very familiar to people, so after migration they've still kept speaking Mandarin just like in Mainland, and if possible, they also tried to learn some Minnanese for melting into Minnanese society gradually. After all, Taipei (台北), in which Mandarin is popularly spoken as an educated language, is without doubt the most important city of Taiwan.
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