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| mrhenrik Triglot Moderator Norway Joined 6077 days ago 482 posts - 658 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, English, French Personal Language Map | Message 9 of 42 13 August 2009 at 9:47am | IP Logged | |||||
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Hah, yeah that part was about the Oslo area - I should've mentioned that. ;)
I reckon that's the dialect most learners will learn though. With the other dialects of course it has nothing to do with class (of course it's a generalisation to call it class) but rather with which dialect you're using. The Bergen-dialect, for instance, barely uses feminine nouns if they use them at all. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| densou Senior Member Italy foto.webalice.it/denRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6130 days ago 120 posts - 121 votes Speaks: Italian* | Message 10 of 42 13 August 2009 at 5:57pm | IP Logged | |||||
Ingen kommentar. :( (perhaps I was just unlucky)
Wasn't 'solen' in Bergen and 'sola' in Oslo ? :D :P 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5907 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 11 of 42 13 August 2009 at 7:42pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Yes that's right, sola/solen is one of those words that people can keep feminine or make masculine and it doesn't matter - you might see both. Personally I would write solen in most cases and say solå... But what I was saying is I can't think of any examples of feminine nouns that are kept feminine in bergensk. I can comment on specific examples (my dad is from Bergen so I would know what they say) but can't seem to come up with my own :-)
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| Krusedullen Newbie Norway Joined 4917 days ago 1 posts - 3 votes | Message 12 of 42 07 June 2011 at 7:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
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The bergen dialect has, for the past 400 years, only had the masculine form and the neuter form.
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5379 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 13 of 42 07 June 2011 at 8:19pm | IP Logged | |||||
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If anyone has any link to any reference to the Norwegian tones, I'd really appreciate it.
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| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5128 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 14 of 42 07 June 2011 at 9:38pm | IP Logged | |||||
There's a blurb in the wikipedia article on Norwegian phonology. Personally, I think too much is made of the whole Norwegian tone subject. Context is king. R. == Edited by hrhenry on 07 June 2011 at 9:38pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5451 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 15 of 42 07 June 2011 at 11:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
Indeed. I think most of the minimal pairs belong to different word classes, such as T1 skjelven (noun) and T2 skjelven (adjective) or T1 rota (noun) and T2 rota (verb). Even when they belong to the same word class, such as the nouns T1 tanken meaning "the tank" and T2 tanken meaning "the thought", context will make the meaning clear. There are even dialects without pitch accent. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| gammarayson Diglot Senior Member Denmark Joined 5430 days ago 6 posts - 7 votes Speaks: English*, Danish Studies: German | Message 16 of 42 10 June 2011 at 12:08pm | IP Logged | |||||
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My first post! A couple of useful references are:- "Norsk Uttaleordbok" av Bjarne Berulfsen( published by
Aschenhoug) which shows the tones for all words, and "Norsk fonetikk for utlendinger" av Åse-Berit Strandskogen(Gyldendals Norsk Forlag) for which there are/were cassettes available. I'm not sure whether these are still available. "Norsk Uttaleordbok" is quite old(1969) and I bought it second hand.Another very helpful book is "Norsk språklære med øvelser" av Ingebjørg Skaug. It has a lot of illustrations showing mouth and lip positions when pronouncing the various Norwegian sounds. There is also a bit about the tones and sentence melody. Hope this is of some help! Edited by gammarayson on 10 June 2011 at 12:13pm 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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