Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5379 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 25 of 42 25 May 2012 at 4:37pm | IP Logged |
Someone needs to make a video!
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Camundonguinho Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4747 days ago 273 posts - 500 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish Studies: Swedish
| Message 26 of 42 25 May 2012 at 11:08pm | IP Logged |
Arekkusu wrote:
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You can hear tonemes across various Norwegian dialects here:
in some dialects the difference between the tone1 and tone2 is very subtle,
in some it's very obvious:
http://www.ling.hf.ntnu.no/ipa/no/tema_008.html
In the dialect/accent from Herøy, Sunnmøre
it's the most obvious.
It's easier to hear the tones in long syllables/vowels, than in short syllables/vowels.
In the case of short syllables/vowels the rise/lowering is delayed and shifted to the next syllable.
Edited by Camundonguinho on 25 May 2012 at 11:12pm
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montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4826 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 27 of 42 01 June 2012 at 3:29pm | IP Logged |
Cainntear wrote:
Context is a cowardly traitor.
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I know this is an old posting, but I love that. Reminds me of Shakespeare, to misquote
which:
"Context doth make cowards of us all" :-)
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(Which is not quite from the famous "To be or not to be" speech from Hamlet).
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Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4666 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 28 of 42 08 December 2012 at 3:10am | IP Logged |
This reporter sounds like a Chinese, but she's Norwegian ;)
Listen to her (@16:26)
http://tv.nrk.no/serie/dagsrevyen/nnfa03120212/02-12-2012#t= 16m26s
Edited by Medulin on 08 December 2012 at 3:10am
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Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5332 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 29 of 42 08 December 2012 at 10:53am | IP Logged |
As a Norwegian I had never heard of Norwegian having pitch accents. I wouldn't worry about it though. If your
Norwegian is so good that you need to pay attention to that you are practically fluent.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6907 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 30 of 42 08 December 2012 at 4:48pm | IP Logged |
Medulin wrote:
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To my ears she sounded like any other Norwegian with that accent. I noticed the smiley, but I wouldn't be surprised if people who have only been exposed to Oslo accent don't think this "sounds like" Norwegian. Not that you said anything like it, but I've met a lot of people with all kinds of ideas about how a language (or accent) "should" sound (based on ONE character in a movie).
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6595 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 31 of 42 08 December 2012 at 11:09pm | IP Logged |
Solfrid Cristin wrote:
If your Norwegian is so good that you need to pay attention to that you are practically fluent. |
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But if it's there, isn't it better to learn it from the beginning?
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sans-serif Tetraglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4557 days ago 298 posts - 470 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, German, Swedish Studies: Danish
| Message 32 of 42 08 December 2012 at 11:43pm | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
Solfrid Cristin wrote:
If your Norwegian is so good that you need to pay attention to that you are practically fluent. |
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But if it's there, isn't it better to learn it from the beginning? |
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This is how I see it. I would also add that, for me, reading a systematic description of the Swedish pitch accent was an immense help. Going by ear alone would have been a much bumpier, more arduous journey. I'm not very knowledgeable of Norwegian, but I'd assume the intonation is just as elusive as that of Swedish, so a bit of theory might not be a bad idea.
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