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Ubik Senior Member United States ubykh.wordpress.com/ Joined 5317 days ago 147 posts - 176 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin, Arabic (Egyptian), German, Spanish
| Message 10 of 39 24 June 2010 at 11:20pm | IP Logged |
Someone already said Wastern Slavic languages, but didnt specifically point out Croatian so add that one to your list.
Why on earth would you want more diacritical marks>>??? I hate them and try to pick languages with the LEAST diacritical marks. The way I feel, Id rather have a completely different alphabet than Roman + a billion extra marks. If a language that uses the Roman alphabet has that many diacritical marks then its usually a sign that the Roman alphabet really wasnt the best fit to illustrate the sounds that language makes
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| Merv Bilingual Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5274 days ago 414 posts - 749 votes Speaks: English*, Serbo-Croatian* Studies: Spanish, French
| Message 11 of 39 25 June 2010 at 12:17am | IP Logged |
Ubik wrote:
Someone already said Wastern Slavic languages, but didnt specifically point out Croatian so add that
one to your list.
Why on earth would you want more diacritical marks>>??? I hate them and try to pick languages with the LEAST
diacritical marks. The way I feel, Id rather have a completely different alphabet than Roman + a billion extra marks.
If a language that uses the Roman alphabet has that many diacritical marks then its usually a sign that the Roman
alphabet really wasnt the best fit to illustrate the sounds that language makes |
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Because Croatian is neither West Slavic nor does it have that many diacritics (Č, Ć, Đ, Š, Ž). French, Dutch, Welsh,
and the other languages mentioned here have quite a bit more.
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| Ubik Senior Member United States ubykh.wordpress.com/ Joined 5317 days ago 147 posts - 176 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin, Arabic (Egyptian), German, Spanish
| Message 12 of 39 25 June 2010 at 12:50am | IP Logged |
Well its Slavic and its more Westerly than most Slavic-speaking countries...I thought it had more diacritics than that though...
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| Merv Bilingual Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5274 days ago 414 posts - 749 votes Speaks: English*, Serbo-Croatian* Studies: Spanish, French
| Message 13 of 39 25 June 2010 at 2:41am | IP Logged |
Ubik wrote:
Well its Slavic and its more Westerly than most Slavic-speaking countries...I thought it had more
diacritics than that though... |
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No offense, but "West Slavic" means a particular group of languages, not those Slavic languages that are
geographically more western than "East Slavic" languages (i.e. Russian, etc.). Slovenia and Croatia may be
geographically to the west of much of Slovakia and Poland, but the former are "South Slavic" and the latter are "West
Slavic."
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| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6143 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian
| Message 14 of 39 25 June 2010 at 4:52am | IP Logged |
Here's a sampling of some common languages. Look at Vietnamese down at the bottom--what a monstrosity! I generally like languages with lots of diacritics, but personally that looks a bit too much like a train crash to me...
French: à, â, ç, é, è, ê, ë, î, ï, ô, œ, ù, û
Portuguese (Brazil): á, à, â, ã, ç, é, ê, í, ó, ô, õ, ú, ü
Catalan: à, ç, é, è, í, ï, ó, ò, ú, ü
Spanish: á, é, í, ñ, ó, ú, ü
Italian: à, é, è, ì, ò, ù
Romanian: ă, â, î, ş, ţ
Icelandic: á, æ, ð, é, í, ó, ö, þ, ú, ý
German: ä, ö, ü, ß
Swedish: ä, å, ö
Danish/Norwegian: æ, å, ø
Slovak: á, ä, č, ď, é, í, ĺ, ľ, ň, ó, ô, ŕ, š, ť, ú, ý, ž
Czech: á, č, ď, é, ĕ, í, ň, ó, ř, š, ť, ú, ů, ý, ž
Polish: ą, ć, ę, ł, ń, ó, ś, ź, ż
Croatian: č, ć, đ, š, ž
Slovenian: č, š, ž
Latvian: ā, č, ē, ģ, ī, ķ, ļ, ņ, š, ū, ž
Lithuanian: ą, č, ę, ė, į, š, ų, ū, ž
Scottish Gaelic: á, à, é, è, ì, ó, ò, ù
Welsh: â, ê, î, ô, û, ŵ, ŷ
Irish: á, é, í, ó, ú
Breton: ê, ñ, ù
Albanian: ç, ë
Hungarian: á, é, í, ó, ö, ő, ú, ü, ű
Estonian: ä, ö, õ, ü **
Finnish: ä, ö **
Turkish: â, ç, ğ, ı, ö, ş, û, ü
Azerbaijani: ç, ə, ğ, ı, ö, ş, ü
Yoruba: á, à, é, è, ẹ, ẹ́, ẹ̀, í, ì, ó, ò, ọ́, ọ̀, ṣ, ú, ù
Vietnamese: à, ả, ã, á, ạ, ă, ằ, ẳ, ẵ, ắ, ặ, â, ầ, ẩ, ẫ, ấ, ậ, đ, è, ẻ, ẽ, é, ẹ, ê, ề, ể, ễ, ế, ệ, ì, ỉ, ĩ, í, ị, ò, ỏ, õ, ó, ọ, ô, ồ, ổ, ỗ, ố, ộ, ơ, ờ, ở, ỡ, ớ, ợ, ù, ủ, ũ, ú, ụ, ư, ừ, ử, ữ, ứ ự, ỳ, ỷ, ỹ, ý, ỵ
* é appears in some foreign words
** š and ž appear in some foreign words
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| johntm93 Senior Member United States Joined 5328 days ago 587 posts - 746 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 15 of 39 25 June 2010 at 5:42am | IP Logged |
ellasevia wrote:
Icelandic: æ, ð, þ
German: ß
Danish/Norwegian: æ,ø |
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These aren't considered letters with diacritics are they?
æ is just a digraph
ß is just a letter, isn't it?
ð and þ are just letters
ø I think this one might be considered a diacritic though...
Edited by johntm93 on 25 June 2010 at 5:43am
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| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6143 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian
| Message 16 of 39 25 June 2010 at 6:26am | IP Logged |
johntm93 wrote:
ellasevia wrote:
Icelandic: æ, ð, þ
German: ß
Danish/Norwegian: æ,ø |
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These aren't considered letters with diacritics are they?
æ is just a digraph
ß is just a letter, isn't it?
ð and þ are just letters
ø I think this one might be considered a diacritic though...
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True, I guess I was just listing any "special" letters that they had.
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