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 Message 25 of 39
25 June 2010 at 10:15pm | IP Logged 
Grandmaster wrote:
   exectra (are you insane? You can write also that not just et cetera!)
Yes, you can. Nothing is stopping you. But you look, to put it bluntly, retarded.
Et cetera is Latin meaning "and so on and so forth"
Etc. is the common abbreviation.
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 Message 26 of 39
25 June 2010 at 10:20pm | IP Logged 
Merv wrote:
Ubik wrote:
Well its Slavic and its more Westerly than most Slavic-speaking countries...I thought it had more
diacritics than that though...


No offense, but "West Slavic" means a particular group of languages, not those Slavic languages that are
geographically more western than "East Slavic" languages (i.e. Russian, etc.). Slovenia and Croatia may be
geographically to the west of much of Slovakia and Poland, but the former are "South Slavic" and the latter are "West
Slavic."


None taken. I didnt know that. I really did assume it was based on geographical location. I will have to look that up. Thank you.

orion wrote:
Ubik wrote:
Why on earth would you want more diacritical marks>>??? I hate them and try to pick languages with the LEAST diacritical marks. The way I feel, Id rather have a completely different alphabet than Roman + a billion extra marks. If a language that uses the Roman alphabet has that many diacritical marks then its usually a sign that the Roman alphabet really wasnt the best fit to illustrate the sounds that language makes


I agree, I find diacritics to be visually non-pleasing also. In my opinion written Vietnamese is one of the ugliest looking languages, but I suppose that is to be expected when French speakers try to devise a Roman alphabet for a tonal Asian language. It is unfortunate that the Vietnamese did not adopt something like the Japanese kana or the bopomofo used in Taiwan.


Really? The French came up with that? No wonder! LOL. No offense to any French people, but most people on here already know how I feel about the French language. Ill have to research that as well. Interesting factoid! Thanks!
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 Message 27 of 39
25 June 2010 at 10:24pm | IP Logged 
Ubik wrote:

orion wrote:

I agree, I find diacritics to be visually non-pleasing also. In my opinion written Vietnamese is one of the ugliest looking languages, but I suppose that is to be expected when French speakers try to devise a Roman alphabet for a tonal Asian language. It is unfortunate that the Vietnamese did not adopt something like the Japanese kana or the bopomofo used in Taiwan.


Really? The French came up with that? No wonder! LOL. No offense to any French people, but most people on here already know how I feel about the French language. Ill have to research that as well. Interesting factoid! Thanks!


Yes, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos all used to be part of a French colony called Indochine. That's why there is still a good deal of French spoken in parts of Southeast Asia and there are many French loanwords.
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 Message 28 of 39
26 June 2010 at 2:04am | IP Logged 
Vietnamese diacritics are actually useful though. Vietnamese is almost totally phonetic: if you can read, you can say basically any word presented to you, and the diacritics are an important part of that.
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 Message 29 of 39
26 June 2010 at 5:06am | IP Logged 
Are the Vietnamese diacritics used to show tones? Vietnamese also has a lot of tones, if I remember correctly.
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 Message 30 of 39
26 June 2010 at 8:17am | IP Logged 
DaisyMaisy wrote:
Are the Vietnamese diacritics used to show tones? Vietnamese also has a lot of tones, if I remember correctly.


Yes, you are right. Standard vietnamese has six tones, and the relevant tone is shown with a diacritic above or below the first vowel in a word. Plus there are a few other diacritics to differentiate between the pronunciation (rather than tone) of different vowels. So, on a vowel, you can have two diacritics at the same time - one for the pronunciation of the letter and one for the tone of the word.
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 Message 31 of 39
26 June 2010 at 8:53am | IP Logged 
Splog wrote:
DaisyMaisy wrote:
Are the Vietnamese diacritics used to show tones? Vietnamese also has a lot of tones, if I remember correctly.


Yes, you are right. Standard vietnamese has six tones, and the relevant tone is shown with a diacritic above or below the first vowel in a word. Plus there are a few other diacritics to differentiate between the pronunciation (rather than tone) of different vowels. So, on a vowel, you can have two diacritics at the same time - one for the pronunciation of the letter and one for the tone of the word.
And who thought this up?
Did they realize how bad that would look?
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 Message 32 of 39
26 June 2010 at 9:24am | IP Logged 
Splog wrote:
DaisyMaisy wrote:
Are the Vietnamese diacritics used to show tones?
Vietnamese also has a lot of tones, if I remember correctly.


Yes, you are right. Standard vietnamese has six tones, and the relevant tone is shown
with a diacritic above or below the first vowel in a word. Plus there are a few other
diacritics to differentiate between the pronunciation (rather than tone) of different
vowels. So, on a vowel, you can have two diacritics at the same time - one for the
pronunciation of the letter and one for the tone of the word.


Oh my fnuggin god! Can I change my answer to the What Language Would You Want To Learn
Last thread? LOL. 6 tones AND all those diacritics? Count me out. Consider me begging
for French in comparison to this!


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