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| Bill_Sage667 Groupie United States Joined 5204 days ago 62 posts - 71 votes  Speaks: English* | Message 1 of 7 30 September 2010 at 8:24am | IP Logged |
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How many months does he spend on a language? Because everyone knows the ears have to get
used to the language first, and that takes time. How long does it take to have his ears get used to the language? Is it really possible to attain irishpolyglot's level of fluency in a language within 3 months, and be able to have one's ears get somehow 'acquainted' with the language, enough to attain basic fluency (or whatever fluency he's at)? What's your take on this, guys? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Britomartis Groupie United States Joined 5808 days ago 67 posts - 74 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin | Message 2 of 7 30 September 2010 at 8:53am | IP Logged |
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There is a lot of good information on his blog (http://www.fluentin3months.com/) that may answer your question. Personally, I don't think it takes long to develop an ear for the language, particularly for people who have had similar experiences with other languages or even just music.
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 budonoseito Pro Member United States budobeyondtechnRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5804 days ago 261 posts - 344 votes Studies: French, Japanese Personal Language Map | Message 3 of 7 30 September 2010 at 1:59pm | IP Logged |
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He also lives in country. So say 10 hours a day for 3 months is 900 hours. This exceeds
FSI's Study time for conversational ability for most European languages. I am not saying it is easy. You have to put in the effort; but, he is able to make it is job and be totally immersed. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6010 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 4 of 7 30 September 2010 at 2:20pm | IP Logged |
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I sometimes think Benny isn't being honest with himself. For the most part, he's been studying languages that he should find easy. When he had a "mini-challenge" with Thai, he quickly scaled his goals back when his original goals were unobtainable.
His latest challenge is a "difficult" language -- Hungarian. He started off by changing his method a bit, and again it seems like he's pulling his goals back. I think his success is mostly down to his starting knowledge. By means of comparison, I spent a couple of weeks studying Catalan, and after that I can have reasonably good conversations... but I already knew Spanish, French and some Italian, so it was dead easy. I'm quite certain that I could have gone to Catalonia before I'd started learning and would have been pretty much fluent in 3 weeks, not 3 months. Benny could probably do this too. But fluency in Inuktitut in 3 months? He probably wouldn't manage it, and I probably wouldn't either. 11 persons have voted this message useful | |
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6702 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 5 of 7 30 September 2010 at 7:52pm | IP Logged |
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This thread is actually also about Moses McCormick, and he is definitely not living where his languages are spoken.
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| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5668 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin | Message 6 of 7 30 September 2010 at 8:32pm | IP Logged |
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Many people rely on a lengthy quiet period to build up a large passive vocabulary, with
their active vocabulary trailing it. This means you can understand a great deal of what you read and hear, but can speak and write much less. My take on the approach of Moses and Benny is that both focus very early on output, and strive to activate each new piece of passive vocabulary very early. So, if you want to be able to be fluent with the vocabulary you have (even if that vocabulary is quite small at first), do what they do: activate it by talking early. 5 persons have voted this message useful | |
| mcjon77 Senior Member United States Joined 6610 days ago 193 posts - 248 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Egyptian), French | Message 7 of 7 30 September 2010 at 8:52pm | IP Logged |
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One of the issues is that it is VERY difficult to tell just how much of a language a person knows solely by youtube videos. This is not to say that any of the youtube polyglots are tying to trick anyone, it is just the nature of the medium. There just isn't a good way to objectively assess the proficiency level of those youtube polyglot. As a result, I don't think one can draw to many conclusions regarding their methods.
Also the definition proficiency/fluency differs from one person to the next. Benny does a decent job defining his own definition of fluency, but even then it is hard to truly understand whet level he is at without seeing him interact with others. Heck, it is hard for ME to assess MY OWN Level without interacting with native speakers in many different contexts. Edited by mcjon77 on 01 October 2010 at 1:47am 7 persons have voted this message useful |
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