slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6666 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English
| Message 17 of 24 25 January 2011 at 8:45pm | IP Logged |
Jon1991 wrote:
I have read that many people on this forum listen to music to improve their language skills. I have tried it but I can't really see how it can make much of an improvement. Any thoughts or experience? |
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Music and songs are very effective... as long as you like them.
Have fun and keep doing.
Edited by slucido on 25 January 2011 at 8:45pm
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Natalia Tetraglot Groupie Poland Joined 5103 days ago 40 posts - 52 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Spanish, Greek Studies: Russian, Serbian
| Message 18 of 24 16 October 2011 at 2:15pm | IP Logged |
I was browsing the "Music, Movies, TV & Radio" section and I came across this very interesting thread. How effective is listening to music? My answer is the following: it is essential (at least in my case)! Music is so full of energy, that it gives you what is one of the most important factors while learning a foreign language - motivation.
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이희선 Groupie Australia Joined 4960 days ago 56 posts - 97 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian
| Message 19 of 24 16 October 2011 at 2:54pm | IP Logged |
I think it can be effective as a tool to help learn the language, but it should be music you can enjoy. One shouldn't force themselves to listen to music they don't like.
For example, I already enjoy a number of French musicians, so I'd like to listen to them as I study French more. But, I'm not into Korean music and K-pop at all, so I don't really use them for studying Korean. I think forcing myself to listen to K-pop would make learning Korean less enjoyable.
If all music can do is motivate you to learn the language more, then there in itself it has some effectiveness.
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infosim12 Newbie Russian Federation songtalks.wordp Joined 5495 days ago 14 posts - 16 votes Speaks: Russian* Studies: Polish
| Message 20 of 24 19 October 2011 at 5:54pm | IP Logged |
Jon1991 wrote:
I have read that many people on this forum listen to music to improve
their language skills. I have tried it but I can't really see how it can make much of an
improvement. Any thoughts or experience? |
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There are songs based speaking exercises for learning Russian on my
songtalks.wordpress.com
The idea is I retell the song close to the text, ask questions and give answers. The goal
is you speaking Russian.
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Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6076 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin
| Message 21 of 24 19 October 2011 at 9:14pm | IP Logged |
I don't think it's very effective. English songs have been played on the radio for decades here in Germany and I know the public can sing the chorus of a dozen or so songs but they don't necessarily know what the song is about. I listened to German music when I was a beginner. I listen to those same songs 7-8 years later and now that I can understand everything I realise there's no way I could have learned what I know now through music. I had to go out and experience the culture before I could understand the music. Songtext is really elusive and it's usually layered like the song. The fun part is going back to the song and picking up some of the nuances.
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5047 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 22 of 24 19 October 2011 at 9:31pm | IP Logged |
Sunja wrote:
I don't think it's very effective. English songs have been played on the
radio for decades here in Germany and I know the public can sing the chorus of a dozen or
so songs but they don't necessarily know what the song is about. I listened to German
music when I was a beginner. I listen to those same songs 7-8 years later and now that I
can understand everything I realise there's no way I could have learned what I know now
through music. I had to go out and experience the culture before I could understand the
music. Songtext is really elusive and it's usually layered like the song. The fun part is
going back to the song and picking up some of the nuances. |
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It was probably meant that songs should be understood and then learnt.
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infosim12 Newbie Russian Federation songtalks.wordp Joined 5495 days ago 14 posts - 16 votes Speaks: Russian* Studies: Polish
| Message 23 of 24 19 October 2011 at 10:19pm | IP Logged |
If songtext is elusive and layered like the song, it is not used for speaking exercises.
There are so many songs with texts we may use for casual speaking...
That is easy. There are casual phrases you need to know for the speaking. That phrases
all are in our songs. You like the song, ready to listen to it many times....kinda
emotionally motivated. Then the son is retold without rhymes and odd poetic lingo, still
close to the text. You learn new words. Then answer many questions...why not effective?
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Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6076 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin
| Message 24 of 24 19 October 2011 at 10:50pm | IP Logged |
infosim12, I didn't mean to take anything away from your previous post. I'm actually speaking just generally, from my own experience. I've never heard a song where I've learned more than just a word or two. If Russian-learners can learn Russian with songtalks.wordpress.com, that's great!
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