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| Kartof Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5068 days ago 391 posts - 550 votes  Speaks: English*, Bulgarian*, Spanish Studies: Danish | Message 9 of 31 29 May 2012 at 6:56am | IP Logged | |||||
Well, maybe I'm just being nit-picky, but in my view, natural languages can be easier or harder for people to learn but they are all fundamentally equally "complex" (when you get down to it, they all have nuances and fine points of grammar even if the structures differ) which is why I took a stab at the "simplified" label although I can clearly see where the (relatively) "easy" label of Bulgarian comes from if you're an English speaker. That aside, what did you mean the declension that makes you less confident? In which language? Certainly you can't mean Bulgarian if you're coming from Polish. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4861 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 10 of 31 29 May 2012 at 7:11am | IP Logged | |||||
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Bulgarian is a snap since it has only the vestigial locative. I've thought more about Czech for example. It seems to be even harder than Polish in this case.
And of course the agglutinative languages. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5058 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 11 of 31 29 May 2012 at 10:26am | IP Logged | |||||
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Bulgarian is not simplified at all. It has mantained all the pld verbal forms and has
developed many new. And there are still two aspects! And there are articles. For a native Russian speaker Bulgarian grammar is much more difficult than all the other Slavic languages. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4861 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 12 of 31 29 May 2012 at 12:20pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Интересно. Of course, if you want to master Bulgarian it can be difficult, but... would it be more difficult than Russian? I don't think so :)
I love such languages, where you can achieve the conversational level relatively fast. Persian is kinda similar. Edited by prz_ on 29 May 2012 at 12:26pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kartof Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5068 days ago 391 posts - 550 votes Speaks: English*, Bulgarian*, Spanish Studies: Danish | Message 13 of 31 29 May 2012 at 9:41pm | IP Logged | |||||
Locative or vocative? I'm not aware of the existence of a locative in Bulgarian and the vocative in Bulgarian is still in use which hardly makes it vestigial, per se, though still unusual for not having been removed along with the rest of the cases. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4861 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 14 of 31 29 May 2012 at 9:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
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oh, sorry, a typo. vocative, of course.
Well, I think it is vestigial because now it's mostly used in the masculine forms (the feminine forms are considered to be rural or even slightly offensive. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kartof Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5068 days ago 391 posts - 550 votes Speaks: English*, Bulgarian*, Spanish Studies: Danish | Message 15 of 31 29 May 2012 at 10:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
Yes, but you'd still use it with close female family members. I apologize to the OP as I fear we've hijacked this thread from the original topic. If I had to pick a first Slavic language to learn (assuming I could or would start over), I'd probably pick Serbo-Croatian due to the relatively prevalent language resources available for its number of speakers as well as the fact that it seems to combine a variety of interesting features in moderation like a more relaxed use of cases (less in some dialects and yet still understandable), more verb forms than in most Slavic languages though significantly less than in Bulgarian, and a pitch accent. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tanya b Senior Member United States Joined 4780 days ago 159 posts - 518 votes Speaks: Russian | Message 16 of 31 30 May 2012 at 3:03am | IP Logged | |||||
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I, like many on this forum, have a weakness for "obscure" languages, and the Slavic language family has it's fair share or them, but I am so thankful that I went with my head and not my heart and learned Russian, the least "obscure" Slavic language.
Russian is so beautiful, so alien, so non-Western, it just gives me goosebumps when I hear and speak it. What I love about Russian is that it is just as "exotic" as the languages of the countries that surround it, be it Mongolian or Lithuanian, but the quality of Russian language resources is vastly superior. There is also a certain "wow" factor here in the West when people learn that you are fluent in Russian. Fair or not, being fluent in Slovenian just doesn't carry the same weight. Wherever you live, it's doubtful that your nation will ever desperately need speakers of Macedonian, but with Russian, there is always that possibilty. But if Russian were not as important as it is, Slovak would be my first choice. Beautiful language, gorgeous country. (lots of Hungarian speakers, too) Edited by tanya b on 30 May 2012 at 3:08am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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